Can we talk about Germany for a bit?

[NAS]

Zod said:

Are you being deliberately stupid? Those other factors were not reported. The mayor's gender was evident from every report.

Indeed. And of all the Mayors in Germany, this is the most talked about one of 2015.

Mainly due to this:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/17/henri...

She was stabbed during the election by a mentally unstable German, who didn't agree with her open attitude to refugees.

To then get something as simple as the sex wrong, shows a severe lack of knowledge about this person.

[scherzkeks]

NAS said:

She was stabbed during the election by a mentally unstable German, who didn't agree with her open attitude to refugees.

I suspect some PHers might take issue with your choice of adjectives.

[krallicious]

poo at Paul's said:

Huge amount of delusion being displayed by our left wing hand wringers yet again.

And it is precisely that, complete "delusion".

Yep, nothing to see here, Germany is great, everything is great, these million one "refugees" are the future of Germany, and Europe. Schityakek's wife can walk around anyway she pleases safe in the knowledge that if anything bad should happen to her, there will be a fully trained refugee doctor or engineer only a stone's throw away.

Everything is great! Germany is great! Carry on.
Only, please don't fk up the rest of Europe anymore than it already is please with your Utopian claptrap.

Edited by poo at Paul's on Monday 25th January 13:21

Are we reading the same thread? Where did anyone say everything is great in Germany right now?

[Hugo a Gogo]

Digga said:

Zod said:

The mayor's gender was evident from every report.

I'm not certain that is 100% correct and, in any case, one could be forgiven for scanning the headlines and coming up with the basics facts of 'the mayor' said; "whatever". It's trivial in terms of the statement.

If you read it in German it is 100% that she is always referred to as a Buergermeisterin

[souper]

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Link says "Germany and Facebook censor users in order to suppress statements that oppose German mass immigration, islamisation, rape and murder of Germans, mostly by muslims.
Censorship has been outsourced to the Bertelsmann company Arvato. Most German politicians, incl. socialist Heiko Maas (SPD) and chancellor Merkel are behind its introduction in early 2016."

[Hugo a Gogo]

Yes, I take all my opinions from teenage girls (especially from youtube)

[souper]

Hugo a Gogo said:

Yes, I take all my opinions from teenage girls (especially from youtube)

Ah yea teenage girls, they didn't believe them in Rotherham either.

[scherzkeks]

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Summary: "Some foreign-looking men looked at me at a supermarket and talked to each other, so immigrants have destroyed Germany. It used to be such a great country."

Compelling.

[andymadmak]

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Link says "Germany and Facebook censor users in order to suppress statements that oppose German mass immigration, islamisation, rape and murder of Germans, mostly by muslims.
Censorship has been outsourced to the Bertelsmann company Arvato. Most German politicians, incl. socialist Heiko Maas (SPD) and chancellor Merkel are behind its introduction in early 2016."

Does anyone know if the claims of censorship are true? If they are, then that is rather worrying. Many German people are already angry with the current situation. Censorship would only inflame things further in my view. People have to be able to talk about their experiences and their fears, if only to provide a release for their frustrations. By keeping it suppressed (if it is happening) this may well lead to some people finding other, more direct ways of venting their anger.

[PRTVR]

scherzkeks said:

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Summary: "Some foreign-looking men looked at me at a supermarket and talked to each other, so immigrants have destroyed Germany. It used to be such a great country."

Compelling.

But is not the fear as bad ? Taken what had happened before why should she not be concerned? She is in a situation that she has not experienced before and she doesn't like it.

[irocfan]

scherzkeks said:

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Summary: "Some foreign-looking men looked at me at a supermarket and talked to each other, so immigrants have destroyed Germany. It used to be such a great country."

Compelling.

Alternatively right-on bleeding heart ignores all issues that don't conform to his "immigrants are all good" viewpoint - witness the refusal to believe the events of NYE.

[pc.iow]

irocfan said:

scherzkeks said:

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Summary: "Some foreign-looking men looked at me at a supermarket and talked to each other, so immigrants have destroyed Germany. It used to be such a great country."

Compelling.

Alternatively right-on bleeding heart ignores all issues that don't conform to his "immigrants are all good" viewpoint - witness the refusal to believe the events of NYE.

Scherzkeks is a . Just like them.

[scherzkeks]

irocfan said:

Alternatively right-on bleeding heart ignores all issues that don't conform to his "immigrants are all good" viewpoint - witness the refusal to believe the events of NYE.

You are simply upset that your transparent tactic of using the actions of a few to disparage hundreds of thousands of individuals falls down underneath even the most minimal degree of scrutiny.

[irocfan]

scherzkeks said:

irocfan said:

Alternatively right-on bleeding heart ignores all issues that don't conform to his "immigrants are all good" viewpoint - witness the refusal to believe the events of NYE.

You are simply upset that your transparent tactic of using the actions of a few to disparage hundreds of thousands of individuals falls down underneath even the most minimal degree of scrutiny.

not at all - I'm disappointed that your tactic is to blame everyone but the perpetrators trying every tactic to weasel out of admitting that quite a few wrong 'uns have indeed taken advantage of that idiot Merkel. We all know that there are deserving cases who need help and who are, thankfully, getting help. However if the figures mentioned are correct that means that there are (roughly) 700,000 single, young men potentially poorly educated with medieval attitudes towards women, gays, alcohol etc etc. Now I'm willing to say that the majority of those are likely upstanding people - but as upstanding people they need to start turfing out the ne'er do wells which does not appear to be happening and again bespeaks of a lack of respect for the host country

[Budflicker]

irocfan said:

not at all - I'm disappointed that your tactic is to blame everyone but the perpetrators trying every tactic to weasel out of admitting that quite a few wrong 'uns have indeed taken advantage of that idiot Merkel. We all know that there are deserving cases who need help and who are, thankfully, getting help. However if the figures mentioned are correct that means that there are (roughly) 700,000 single, young men potentially poorly educated with medieval attitudes towards women, gays, alcohol etc etc. Now I'm willing to say that the majority of those are likely upstanding people - but as upstanding people they need to start turfing out the ne'er do wells which does not appear to be happening and again bespeaks of a lack of respect for the host country

Don't try and engage the troll, he has nothing of any substance to say, it's all one line put downs or selectively quoted parts of your post he can reign all liberally high and mighty over.

Go through the whole thread, he has offered nothing in terms of his idea of a solution to the problem, other than to say that there isn't one

[roachcoach]

scherzkeks said:

irocfan said:

Alternatively right-on bleeding heart ignores all issues that don't conform to his "immigrants are all good" viewpoint - witness the refusal to believe the events of NYE.

You are simply upset that your transparent tactic of using the actions of a few to disparage hundreds of thousands of individuals falls down underneath even the most minimal degree of scrutiny.

How did your scrutiny of the accounts of Richie200 and Adenauer go? You were quick to dmiss it as "spouting", as I recall but I I do not recall see any rebuttals there once the names and places were posted.

So are they all liars or what?

[Mark Benson]

andymadmak said:

souper said:

16 y/o German girl talks about muslim immigration, destruction of her own country (Engl. subs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfP8CyJAhg

Link says "Germany and Facebook censor users in order to suppress statements that oppose German mass immigration, islamisation, rape and murder of Germans, mostly by muslims.
Censorship has been outsourced to the Bertelsmann company Arvato. Most German politicians, incl. socialist Heiko Maas (SPD) and chancellor Merkel are behind its introduction in early 2016."

Does anyone know if the claims of censorship are true? If they are, then that is rather worrying. Many German people are already angry with the current situation. Censorship would only inflame things further in my view. People have to be able to talk about their experiences and their fears, if only to provide a release for their frustrations. By keeping it suppressed (if it is happening) this may well lead to some people finding other, more direct ways of venting their anger.

Ironic if it is true given Bertelsmann's history, the largest producer of propaganda for another deluded German leader.

[scherzkeks]

irocfan said:

Now I'm willing to say that the majority of those are likely upstanding people

Oooh, are we getting somewhere now?

irocfan said:

- but as upstanding people they need to start turfing out the ne'er do wells which does not appear to be happening and again bespeaks of a lack of respect for the host country

Oh, I guess not.

So, when are you going to openly protest rape culture? It has been around long before the brown people arrived, and I have no choice but to interpret your lack of open, public activism to mean you do not respect women.

[Budflicker]

Budflicker said:

or selectively quoted parts of your post he can reign all liberally high and mighty over

scherzkeks said:

irocfan said:

Now I'm willing to say that the majority of those are likely upstanding people

Oooh, are we getting somewhere now?

irocfan said:

- but as upstanding people they need to start turfing out the ne'er do wells which does not appear to be happening and again bespeaks of a lack of respect for the host country

Oh, I guess not.

So, when are you going to openly protest rape culture? It has been around long before the brown people arrived, and I have no choice but to interpret your lack of open, public activism to mean you do not respect women.

Told you...

[Hugo a Gogo]

do me a favour, go and post a link to a 16 yr old called Bibi taking about how 'global warming is baad m'kay - Obama you have to fix it!' on the climate change thread, see how they take it