Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

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Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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bodhi said:
The demented ramblings of a fool who keeps wittering on about a progressive Scotland, but doesn't seem to be able to progress past the 18th of September?
I'm playing my part as we speak, what are you doing other than deluding yourself that the SNP will go away?

bodhi

10,661 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
I'm playing my part as we speak, what are you doing other than deluding yourself that the SNP will go away?
Watching from afar in horror at the SNP's attempt to tear my country in two?

Big Rod

6,204 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
I'm playing my part as we speak, what are you doing other than deluding yourself that the SNP will go away?
Don't really have to 'do' anything other than put the cross in the common sense box at the appropriate time.

I seem to recall many mentions of 'the silent majority' before the independence movement lost the referendum.

All the noise, activity and propaganda from the protagonists didn't really help much did it?


Edited by Big Rod on Tuesday 16th December 14:16

Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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bodhi said:
Watching from afar in horror at the SNP's attempt to tear my country in two?
Big Rod said:
Don't really have to 'do' anything other than put the cross in the common sense box at the appropriate time.

I seem to recall many mentions of 'the silent majority' before the independence movement lost the referendum.

All the noise, activity and propaganda from the protagonists didn't really help much did it?


Edited by Big Rod on Tuesday 16th December 14:16
Pleasing, very pleasing cool

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
simoid said:
You've fallen into the trap (like many yes voters) of seeing data and assuming that it supports your cause,

In fact, strocky's middle graph supports the assertion made, with which he disagreed. Awkward.

You're one of those guys who can't understand how 9.3% can be greater than 9.6%, aren't you?
The graph's where in response to

HenryJM said:
said:
Well it's essentially the largest element of the economy, is there any other bit that comes close to 16%?
Do try and keep up old bean
I know. Top one showed exports - irrelevant. Bottom one growth - irrelevant.

Middle one showed that the only sector bigger than oil was the public sector, therefore, proving Henry correct.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
simoid said:
I don't have a problem. You're the one who's having the comprehension catastrophes caused by paranoid delusions. The YES is strong in you, I sense.

Do you want Scotland to be an independent country?
Why don't you sit this round out, Champ wobble
Why, having too much fun trolling around to have a proper discussion?

I do wonder why the nationalists possess this trait. They tried it for one referendum and lost resoundingly. Why not just have a mature, sensible discussion? They might even get some rational, sensible Scots on board. Probably best to jibe away on the internet though.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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simoid said:
Strocky said:
simoid said:
You've fallen into the trap (like many yes voters) of seeing data and assuming that it supports your cause,

In fact, strocky's middle graph supports the assertion made, with which he disagreed. Awkward.

You're one of those guys who can't understand how 9.3% can be greater than 9.6%, aren't you?
The graph's where in response to

HenryJM said:
said:
Well it's essentially the largest element of the economy, is there any other bit that comes close to 16%?
Do try and keep up old bean
I know. Top one showed exports - irrelevant. Bottom one growth - irrelevant.

Middle one showed that the only sector bigger than oil was the public sector, therefore, proving Henry correct.
Yes, I'm bemused at to what the though is that I am irrelevant, or what I am not keeping up with.

Oil was, until recent weeks, the way that oil was going to be the way in which Scotland was going to drive forwards. Today it suddenly isn't.

HenryJM

6,315 posts

130 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Gross disposable income per head:

Public expenditure per head


If you want some graphs that actually mean something.

Big Rod

6,204 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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doogz said:
Strocky said:
Pleasing, very pleasing cool
And what are you doing?
Probably Googling Tom Selleck.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
bodhi said:
Watching from afar in horror at the SNP's attempt to tear my country in two?
Pleasing, very pleasing cool
You really are a piece of human waste aren't you


Is there anything that would make you of voted NO

And i mean anything


if a NO vote meant 25% of the population starving to death would it still be a YES from you?

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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HenryJM said:
Gross disposable income per head:

Public expenditure per head


If you want some graphs that actually mean something.
Sure the top one is disposable income?

Anyway, we're almost winning the bottom one smile

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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They actually WOULD.

Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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simoid said:
Strocky said:
simoid said:
I don't have a problem. You're the one who's having the comprehension catastrophes caused by paranoid delusions. The YES is strong in you, I sense.

Do you want Scotland to be an independent country?
Why don't you sit this round out, Champ wobble
Why, having too much fun trolling around to have a proper discussion?

I do wonder why the nationalists possess this trait. They tried it for one referendum and lost resoundingly. Why not just have a mature, sensible discussion? They might even get some rational, sensible Scots on board. Probably best to jibe away on the internet though.
Pretty hard to have a proper discussion with someone who displays potential dissociative disorder from post to post


Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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doogz said:
Strocky said:
Pleasing, very pleasing cool
And what are you doing?
More than the "job done" Unionists

Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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HenryJM said:
Yes, I'm bemused at to what the though is that I am irrelevant, or what I am not keeping up with.

Oil was, until recent weeks, the way that oil was going to be the way in which Scotland was going to drive forwards. Today it suddenly isn't.
You asked if Scotland had any other sector that was as big as oil at 16%, I posted the graph, you're still bemused, other than spoon feeding you.......

The do keep up bean wasn't aimed at you either

The comprehension skills in this thread are frightening

Strocky

2,659 posts

114 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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McWigglebum4th said:
Strocky said:
bodhi said:
Watching from afar in horror at the SNP's attempt to tear my country in two?
Pleasing, very pleasing cool
You really are a piece of human waste aren't you


Is there anything that would make you of voted NO

And i mean anything


if a NO vote meant 25% of the population starving to death would it still be a YES from you?
You obviously didn't understand the nuance of the post, i.e. It's a good thing for future SI that supporters of the Union are sitting on their laurels, whereas YES are still campaigning

Again the comprehension skills from some .......

Re your premise, it's stupefyingly ridiculous, even Ethiopia at its peak was nowhere near that sort of mortality rate

It's also ironic given that food banks have grown exponentially under the Westminster machine (whilst being lauded by out if touch right wingers as showing society cares)

///ajd

8,964 posts

207 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
HenryJM said:
Yes, I'm bemused at to what the though is that I am irrelevant, or what I am not keeping up with.

Oil was, until recent weeks, the way that oil was going to be the way in which Scotland was going to drive forwards. Today it suddenly isn't.
You asked if Scotland had any other sector that was as big as oil at 16%, I posted the graph, you're still bemused, other than spoon feeding you.......

The do keep up bean wasn't aimed at you either

The comprehension skills in this thread are frightening
Only a Nat could think they can win an argument as to whether there is a bigger contribution to the economy than a certain sector by quoting the size of the Public Sector.

Just wow.

Industries like oil etc. contribute to the economy.
The Public Sector is a (necessary) drain on the economy.

Note that Scotland is disproportionately dependant on the Public Sector - at 22% vs 19%. In cash terms this is huge, and a benefit of the union/Barnett hand out.

So IQ-limited you draw attention to things that destroy your own arguments.



Edited by ///ajd on Tuesday 16th December 19:47

barryrs

4,403 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
doogz said:
Strocky said:
Pleasing, very pleasing cool
And what are you doing?
More than the "job done" Unionists


Edited by barryrs on Tuesday 16th December 19:46

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Tuesday 16th December 2014
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Strocky said:
You obviously didn't understand the nuance of the post, i.e. It's a good thing for future SI that supporters of the Union are sitting on their laurels, whereas YES are still campaigning

Again the comprehension skills from some .......

Re your premise, it's stupefyingly ridiculous, even Ethiopia at its peak was nowhere near that sort of mortality rate

It's also ironic given that food banks have grown exponentially under the Westminster machine (whilst being lauded by out if touch right wingers as showing society cares)
here is an idea

Instead on banging on about food banks


Go and fix the fking problem


The scottish government have had tax raising powers since it was built as they were given the power to alter income tax by 3%

they have used it exactly


zero times


let me post this again


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