Seal Team Rescues Hostages

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DonkeyApple

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170 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Lost_BMW said:
The SEAL teams are very obviously top notch - utterly remarkable men and women and I bet your proud and grateful to have them - but so must their intelligence/support/command structures be, in order to find the location and best time to act and allow them to. What is our sorry excuse for a govt. command/intelligence mechanism doing?

I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations but do our intelligence services know or even bother to find the location of UK citizens held abroad? Probably not worth it really as our govt. would probably st its collective self with the fear of upsetting anyone with an independent op in someone else's territory.
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Shall we use a satelite to track these people and arrange a suitable attack?

No need. We'll pack Clive off from the passport office with a disposable camera and 50p for phone calls. He lives in South London. I'm sure he's fluent in the local jingo.

What about flying the troops in and out?

Well, pretty sure Monarch do a charter to somewhere nearby. That should do. Baggage allowances shouldn't be an issue as our chaps don't have any kit and can arm themselves with the disposable cutlery from the flight.

Excellent chaps. Tip top.

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Gene Vincent said:
V88Dicky said:
Slipknot tribute band?
hehe

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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DonkeyApple said:
CraigVmax said:
her reaction, when you said she was scary.......


Jimbeaux doesn't understand the level of lethal firepower Ross can call on. biggrin
I yield. smile

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Lost_BMW said:
Jimbeaux said:
They did get'em all out. Stop talking about how the SAS would get them out and make your politicians send them. There is bound to be some hostages held somewhere. Am I being harsh? If so, I am sorry. smile
The SEAL teams are very obviously top notch - utterly remarkable men and women and I bet your proud and grateful to have them - but so must their intelligence/support/command structures be, in order to find the location and best time to act and allow them to. What is our sorry excuse for a govt. command/intelligence mechanism doing?

I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations but do our intelligence services know or even bother to find the location of UK citizens held abroad? Probably not worth it really as our govt. would probably st its collective self with the fear of upsetting anyone with an independent op in someone else's territory.
I am certain you have the total capability and that the boys are chomping at the bit to go. I'd wager that it is all down to, as you say, political will.

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Pesty said:
Jimbeaux said:
You lost me, so I will just agree. wink
Jim the picture is not of an SAS soldier. it is of a well known tough acting tv soap star.

the post was meant as a joke.

HTH
Got it. Sorry for the slow uptake.

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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King Herald said:
Lost_BMW said:
I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations.......
It happens, we just don't slather it across the news rags of the world.

There is always an advantage in keeping quiet about your capabilities.
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.

audidoody

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257 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Mikeyboy said:
Hes and actor who played hardmen on British tv, and then did a series about the gangs of the world. He looks the part but basically is a bit of a luvvie
So I used to to think before I saw some of his bullet-whizzing-by front-line Afghanistan programmes. Fair play to the man. He's got big balls.

andy_s

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260 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
Unfortunately the French have failed in two attempts over the past few months in similar hostage rescues.


Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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andy_s said:
Jimbeaux said:
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
Unfortunately the French have failed in two attempts over the past few months in similar hostage rescues.
See, there is an example of truth in advertising.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
King Herald said:
Lost_BMW said:
I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations.......
It happens, we just don't slather it across the news rags of the world.

There is always an advantage in keeping quiet about your capabilities.
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
I am sure the naughty people know who is who and who might come knocking much as I am sure that there are people telling them (hostage takers) how best to lesson the chances of a visit.

andy_s

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260 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
andy_s said:
Jimbeaux said:
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
Unfortunately the French have failed in two attempts over the past few months in similar hostage rescues.
See, there is an example of truth in advertising.
Well, sort of, but they still killed the hostage takers - not much of a silver lining being killed by the French as opposed to the seals, but I know what you mean smile

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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jmorgan said:
Jimbeaux said:
King Herald said:
Lost_BMW said:
I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations.......
It happens, we just don't slather it across the news rags of the world.

There is always an advantage in keeping quiet about your capabilities.
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
I am sure the naughty people know who is who and who might come knocking much as I am sure that there are people telling them (hostage takers) how best to lesson the chances of a visit.
True, but seeing happen with some regularity might weigh on their decision making process.

King Herald

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217 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Jimbeaux said:
jmorgan said:
Jimbeaux said:
King Herald said:
Lost_BMW said:
I'd be surprised if the SAS didn't have the capability to do similar operations.......
It happens, we just don't slather it across the news rags of the world.

There is always an advantage in keeping quiet about your capabilities.
There is also an advantage to advertising them. Those who do such things may think twice knowing who may be visited.
I am sure the naughty people know who is who and who might come knocking much as I am sure that there are people telling them (hostage takers) how best to lesson the chances of a visit.
True, but seeing happen with some regularity might weigh on their decision making process.
When you are the big boy on the block word gets around soon enough. hehe

jmorgan

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285 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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My thoughts. Plus the less they know, the bigger advantage you have on them.

TheHeretic

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256 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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I still remember the Iranian embassy on TV even thought I was only 5 or so. Stunning footage. Up to that point the SAS was very hush hush, and even Iraq, etc, you don't hear too much about what they are doing. Hard to gauge I suppose.

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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TheHeretic said:
I still remember the Iranian embassy on TV even thought I was only 5 or so. Stunning footage. Up to that point the SAS was very hush hush, and even Iraq, etc, you don't hear too much about what they are doing. Hard to gauge I suppose.
Catch 22, nobody wants you until they need you; when you do well, you can't toot your horn. Like Terror foiling.....is there no threat or has the threats been stopped and the people can't be told. wink

TheHeretic

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Anyway, Jim, you may like 'Ultimate force'... It's a bit like 'The Unit' but without the fking annoying wives doing their best to fk things up.

Jimbeaux

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Anyway, Jim, you may like 'Ultimate force'... It's a bit like 'The Unit' but without the fking annoying wives doing their best to fk things up.
Thanks. smile

Lost_BMW

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177 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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jmorgan said:
Maybe they do not want the publicity? Embassies apart, who really knew what the did and do. There is always the bloke down the pub on the end of the bar that is an expert, but maybe keeping out the limelight suits them?

Anyway, can't think of any UK hostages that have been in the news recently. Maybe there is another clue there.
Not heard about the tourists seized in Kenya and whisked over the border then?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2036168/Ke...

But you're probably right - she's probably tucked up in bed back in Tunbridge Wells but told to keep stum.


The Chandlers don't seem too chuffed at the support the FO gave theri family members but he does acknowledge that he didn't really expect the govt. to break with protocol and deal with the pirates, or that the SAS would be sent in... http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/30/paul-rach...

jmorgan

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285 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Would help if I took notice of the news. Have heard of them but what is or was going on in the background I know not.