Jobless man refuses to get up at 8am
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Oakey said:
blindswelledrat said:
In a round about way I think ALL benefits claimants are like Paul. Certainly applicable in the South East.
I honestly believe that any unemployed person could get casual low-paid work. Anybody who doesnt work chooses not to.
I think the problem with low paid work is it just isn't worth it. I saw a job advertised recently for a cleaner at DW Sports. 6am start. 10 hours a week, minimum wage. I honestly believe that any unemployed person could get casual low-paid work. Anybody who doesnt work chooses not to.
Pointless.
blindswelledrat said:
In a round about way I think ALL benefits claimants are like Paul. Certainly applicable in the South East.
I honestly believe that any unemployed person could get casual low-paid work. Anybody who doesnt work chooses not to.
Thing is, if you've got a half-decent sized mortgage, rolling credit card balance, personal loans, or anything else that would be covered by insurance policies in the event of job loss, chances are high that in order to claim on those policies you'll HAVE to be registered with Ye Olde Jobbe Centre. Take on a low paid temp job in the meantime and you can wave goodbye to the insurance payouts... think that low paid job will bring in an equivalent amount of cash to those insurance policies plus JSA, bearing in mind that not everyone gets handsome redundancy payouts from their former employers to help cover their ongoing living expenses (especially not if they've gone into administration - you might just be lucky enough not to also lose out on your last pay packet, but you've probably lost that as well), whilst also still giving you enough time to look for your next real job, keep your skills from going stale, or whatever else any professional person would do inbetween jobs? And as someone else mentioned earlier, how likely is it that an employer will want to take someone on who's obviously only interested in the job as a short-term (as short as possible) stop-gap anyway, even if it was a genuinely viable option? I honestly believe that any unemployed person could get casual low-paid work. Anybody who doesnt work chooses not to.
twister said:
Thing is, if you've got a half-decent sized mortgage, rolling credit card balance, personal loans, or anything else that would be covered by insurance policies in the event of job loss, chances are high that in order to claim on those policies you'll HAVE to be registered with Ye Olde Jobbe Centre. Take on a low paid temp job in the meantime and you can wave goodbye to the insurance payouts... think that low paid job will bring in an equivalent amount of cash to those insurance policies plus JSA, bearing in mind that not everyone gets handsome redundancy payouts from their former employers to help cover their ongoing living expenses (especially not if they've gone into administration - you might just be lucky enough not to also lose out on your last pay packet, but you've probably lost that as well), whilst also still giving you enough time to look for your next real job, keep your skills from going stale, or whatever else any professional person would do inbetween jobs? And as someone else mentioned earlier, how likely is it that an employer will want to take someone on who's obviously only interested in the job as a short-term (as short as possible) stop-gap anyway, even if it was a genuinely viable option?
Shhhhh! The world's far easier for the enternal moaner to understand when viewed minus details! ; )For those that think the caller was a fake, or some sort of set up. At least he's trying for a job. My father in law has not worked in the 25 years I've known him. He has a 3 bed house 2 streets from me, and a much newer car. He will soon be getting his 3rd or 4th new car on the trot (mobility).
In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
98elise said:
For those that think the caller was a fake, or some sort of set up. At least he's trying for a job. My father in law has not worked in the 25 years I've known him. He has a 3 bed house 2 streets from me, and a much newer car. He will soon be getting his 3rd or 4th new car on the trot (mobility).
In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
I grew up on a council estate, opposite a family (related to my now wife) had a council house, the wife left after having an affair and was re-housed with the 3 kids (all my age ish) the fayhrr stayed in the 3 bed property and when iy was knocked down was given another. Each child ended up in council proprrties 1 flat 1 masonette 1 house which the daughter was evicted from. This daughters two children now have council properties and one child of one of the sons does too, three generations and I reckon that no more than a coulle of weeks work could have been done by all the family members combined in the last 25 years I have known themIn the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
I would make them all live together if I had my way as it appears they really do know how to make the system work for them rather than the other way around.
The father has also had a motorbility car for the last ten years due to gout. All of the family members have the latest technology (big TV's e.t.c) It really is hard to describe just how much of a burden to the state this family is without it sounding like I am jealous but yhe reality is that they seem to have everything without having to put in any effort.
NoNeed said:
98elise said:
For those that think the caller was a fake, or some sort of set up. At least he's trying for a job. My father in law has not worked in the 25 years I've known him. He has a 3 bed house 2 streets from me, and a much newer car. He will soon be getting his 3rd or 4th new car on the trot (mobility).
In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
I grew up on a council estate, opposite a family (related to my now wife) had a council house, the wife left after having an affair and was re-housed with the 3 kids (all my age ish) the fayhrr stayed in the 3 bed property and when iy was knocked down was given another. Each child ended up in council proprrties 1 flat 1 masonette 1 house which the daughter was evicted from. This daughters two children now have council properties and one child of one of the sons does too, three generations and I reckon that no more than a coulle of weeks work could have been done by all the family members combined in the last 25 years I have known themIn the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
I would make them all live together if I had my way as it appears they really do know how to make the system work for them rather than the other way around.
The father has also had a motorbility car for the last ten years due to gout. All of the family members have the latest technology (big TV's e.t.c) It really is hard to describe just how much of a burden to the state this family is without it sounding like I am jealous but yhe reality is that they seem to have everything without having to put in any effort.
8am us a lie in for many isn't it!
Yest I was up at 5.45am got ready, sorted the animals out, got little lad ready for nursery, out the door by 7.15am. Drop son off get too work. Worked til 8.45pm (half hr lunch) This is not a complaint per say, it's the nature of my job!
Plenty of people work long days and I'm sure most of us would like to not have to get up until 8am.
Yest I was up at 5.45am got ready, sorted the animals out, got little lad ready for nursery, out the door by 7.15am. Drop son off get too work. Worked til 8.45pm (half hr lunch) This is not a complaint per say, it's the nature of my job!
Plenty of people work long days and I'm sure most of us would like to not have to get up until 8am.
JDRoest said:
Ok, so this chap is called Paul. I know one benefit claimant who hasn't looked for a job in 3-4 years - and he's only 22/23!! It's not lack of jobs because Amazon is based in his town - it's that he simply can't be arsed to get a job. But he's managed to sign off as a carer which means he doesn't have to attend the DHS office to explain why he's jobless.
(And he doesn't do any caring for the OAP either!)
The problem is that you are relying on anecdotal evedence(should that be an I after the d idk).(And he doesn't do any caring for the OAP either!)
On anecdotal evedence alone I KNOW bmw are the worst drivers. I can remember two times when bmw drivers have made me do an emergency brake. I know that proportionaly BMW drivers are as safe as any other (although my mum does drive a 3-series :S) but several BMW have cut me up before, causing me to have to brake and...
0000 said:
crankedup said:
It is NOT FOR THE MEDIA to decide right and wrong in benefits issues ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
Sure. Individuals make for useful examples to illustrate wider problems though.98elise said:
For those that think the caller was a fake, or some sort of set up. At least he's trying for a job. My father in law has not worked in the 25 years I've known him. He has a 3 bed house 2 streets from me, and a much newer car. He will soon be getting his 3rd or 4th new car on the trot (mobility).
In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
Bloody hell, your not the Paul bloke off the radio are you, you have to be kidding?In the past few years the house has been double glazed, a new kitchen fitted, and the bathroom redone. He's not lifted a finger to do any of that.
He has never even looked for a job in the whole time I've known him.
There are many people like this out there.
I live in NJ, and after hurricane sandy back in November there was a huge amount of clear up work from trees to building to be done. Within days there were hundreds of people here from other states, many of them thousands of miles, to help with the clear up. Initially to just help, and then after the worst was done, to make some money. I had a crew of ten from West Virginia and North Carolina working from 8 to 8, for six daya clearing trees in my garden, cash in hand. They rented all the equipment and worked around our town right up to Christmas. They are now back having bought their own equipment, doing more work. It's an amazing culture of giving, selfless help mixed with entrepreneurship that no social state can replicate.
I used to vote Labour all my life, but I now think that the balance has gone in the UK and even the 'coalition' are messing around with the deck chairs while the mother ship heads for the iceburg. The deficit is still huge - the country spends 30% more than it earns with zero-ish growth in income. That's nuts.
I used to vote Labour all my life, but I now think that the balance has gone in the UK and even the 'coalition' are messing around with the deck chairs while the mother ship heads for the iceburg. The deficit is still huge - the country spends 30% more than it earns with zero-ish growth in income. That's nuts.
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