Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack

Eleven children injured in Blyth park dog attack

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Evolved

3,577 posts

188 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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el stovey said:
Certain breeds attract chav, gold chain & wife beater wearing, council estate dheads as owners. The staffy is one of them.
Corrected that for you.

buckline

377 posts

164 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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I love dogs and respect owners of all breeds that are well behaved, the owners have done a great job. However my own personal motto in life is that I wouldn't own a dog that I couldn't beat in a fight.

edgyedgy

474 posts

128 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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pidsy said:
I said I get my fair share of people crossing over the road.

A vast number more are friendly and want to say hello.

You ask, why get a staffy? It wasn't by choice. We got Lou from a KC breeder 2 years ago (she's a very well to do dog in terms of pedigree). Then last year we decided to get her a playmate.

EBT's are a very bouncy breed and she loves ruff and tumble so a "soft" or non chav dog was out of the question. We did try to rehome a lab, a collie cross and a Jack Russell but non could handle the constant playing, wrestling and ball chasing that Lou enjoys so with so many in rescue, we thought we'd help where we could and rehomed him.
Well I think you did a good deed in giving that staff a new home.

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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ukaskew said:
This is why I go running at 9pm, less chance of running into a (badly or untrained) dog. Owners telling me 'don't worry he's a nice dog' doesn't really help when you're terrified of the things.
I put mine on his lead when walkers or runner approach. Not because he's dangerous to people but he's so friendly if they make a fuss of him he will jump up and get them muddy if they ignore him he doesn't even notice them. I still put him on a lead.
Never thought about people scared of dogs but that's another good reason.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 19th May 2016
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edgyedgy said:
pidsy said:
I said I get my fair share of people crossing over the road.

A vast number more are friendly and want to say hello.

You ask, why get a staffy? It wasn't by choice. We got Lou from a KC breeder 2 years ago (she's a very well to do dog in terms of pedigree). Then last year we decided to get her a playmate.

EBT's are a very bouncy breed and she loves ruff and tumble so a "soft" or non chav dog was out of the question. We did try to rehome a lab, a collie cross and a Jack Russell but non could handle the constant playing, wrestling and ball chasing that Lou enjoys so with so many in rescue, we thought we'd help where we could and rehomed him.
Well I think you did a good deed in giving that staff a new home.
I paid a visit to someone the other day and he had three Staffies. I am not a dog person at all but those three were a real pleasure, very placid and loving.
I am sure that a well cared for Staffie makes for a very rewarding friend but I am always wary of their strength and the feeling that any dog can turn, I am a bit risk-averse in this respect.

voyds9

8,489 posts

284 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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The main problem with staffies are the wrong owners.

Good owners, great dogs.

darker grapefruit

360 posts

101 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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voyds9 said:
The main problem with staffies are the wrong owners.

Good owners, great dogs.
Absolutely this. No such thing as a 'problem breed', only a problem owner.

skyrover

12,682 posts

205 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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I must admit, i'm exactly a fan of doberman's and yes, certain breeds DO have temperamental inclinations bred into them.

Staffies are a very good family dog though from a behavioral perspective.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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darker grapefruit said:
Absolutely this. No such thing as a 'problem breed', only a problem owner.
I'm no geneticist, but I thought every dog on the planet was a product of selective breeding, and that Chihuahuas and Great Danes were all descended from wolves.

So if you can breed in physical traits, long hair, short legs, pointy or floppy ears, why can't you breed in personality or behavioural traits. In fact, surely that all sheepdogs are collies, and gundogs etc are all the same breed, tells us that you can.

So surely you can breed inherent aggression into a dog. If you picked the 2 most aggressive staffies you could find, mate them, pick the most aggressive puppy, mate it with another aggressive puppy etc, surely you could end up with a dog that was just a wrong 'un, regardless of how nice it's new owners were.

I though this was the thinking behind the American pit bull, a breed selectively created to be aggressive and vicious.

I like the suggestion that no one should own a dog they couldn't beat in a fight. Make that law, and add in that no one can own a dog with a higher IQ than them, and I think you solve many of the problems.



s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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But it is ALWAYS these style of dogs. Whether it is an owner or breed problem, it is ALWAYS these types of dogs.

At the very least, parents should keep their kids away from dogs like this, that are not their own and that they don't know very well indeed.

otolith

56,449 posts

205 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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s3fella said:
But it is ALWAYS these style of dogs. Whether it is an owner or breed problem, it is ALWAYS these types of dogs.
The problematic breeds change with time, it just reflects what is fashionable amongst the retard population. I wonder what breed they're going to ruin next?

Cotty

39,659 posts

285 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I like the suggestion that no one should own a dog they couldn't beat in a fight.
Sounds like a plan, chiwawa’s all round

AshVX220

5,929 posts

191 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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ukaskew said:
AshVX220 said:
If you have a major phobia then hopefully by telling any reasonable owner will ensure they keep their dog away from you. It's not always easy to tell how frightened someone is unless they say so.

Can I ask why you have a phobia of dogs?

As per many posts, there's actually no such thing as a bad dog, just bad owners and training (or lack of), in my experience.
When out running it's not easy to have a polite chat with an owner as more often than not the dog (not on a lead) has reached me long before they do. I was photographing bluebells a few weekends back and a dog appears out of nowhere snarling and barking at me, jumping back and forth. At least a minute later the owner shows up 'oh don't worry, he was just surprised to see you'.

My phobia stems from being attacked by a random dog (off lead) when I was about 6 years old in a public park, not serious, thankfully.
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kowalski655

14,691 posts

144 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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otolith said:
s3fella said:
But it is ALWAYS these style of dogs. Whether it is an owner or breed problem, it is ALWAYS these types of dogs.
The problematic breeds change with time, it just reflects what is fashionable amongst the retard population. I wonder what breed they're going to ruin next?
They have already started on Malamutes and Huskies I believe.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

179 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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s3fella said:
But it is ALWAYS these style of dogs. Whether it is an owner or breed problem, it is ALWAYS these types of dogs.

At the very least, parents should keep their kids away from dogs like this, that are not their own and that they don't know very well indeed.
No it isn't, its just the mainstream media target 'these' type of dogs.

It used to be Rotweilers and various other breads before that.

Two rotweilers 'escaped' and bit a child round our way a few months back and it didn't make the mainstream press. I am sure there are plenty of other incidents that aren't national news and so go unnoticed.

It's just because 'Staffy' that it makes the national papers the majority of the time.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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It's terrible that their daughter got bitten but this is just a fking stupid statement to make

idiot in newspaper said:
"She's frightened of dogs now for the rest of her life and frightened of parks."
How can they possibly surmise that a few hours after an incident took place?

As for 'frightened of parks', how would you even know?!.

pidsy

8,028 posts

158 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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the obvious issue is the fact that there are a lot of other small, fluffy but extremely nippy breeds out there - no shortage of people with stories of nipped fingers or ankles from shi-tzu's, Pomeranian's, puggles, labradoodles etc, but they dont have the bite strength or mouth capacity of bigger bull breeds.

the small bites might be more common but arent as savage as the ones that make the press.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,599 posts

151 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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Cotty said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I like the suggestion that no one should own a dog they couldn't beat in a fight.
Sounds like a plan, chiwawa’s all round
My chihuahua killed a rottweiller.......she got stuck in his throat!

EnthusiastOwned

728 posts

118 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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s3fella said:
But it is ALWAYS these style of dogs. Whether it is an owner or breed problem, it is ALWAYS these types of dogs.

At the very least, parents should keep their kids away from dogs like this, that are not their own and that they don't know very well indeed.
It's not ALWAYS these type of dogs. But it is ALWAYS these type of dogs which are pushed by the media. Dachshunds are considered to have a higher stranger aggression and reported bites.

At the very least, parents should be wary about ANY dog.

tankplanker

2,479 posts

280 months

Friday 20th May 2016
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I brought a Staffie (Morris) from the RSPCA, before him I've owned a Belgium Sheepdog and an Alsatian, also both rescues. I wanted a smaller dog as the kids were little at the time. I did research with the help of the Kennel Club and the RSPCA for the best breed of dog for young kids, the choice came out to a Springer or a Staffie, chose the Staffie as they require far less grooming and less exercise (an hour a day vs. at least a couple of hours).

When we adopted Morris he had very little training (this we knew in advance), it took about 18 months of training every day to get him fully trained. Most owners of any breed simply do not put in enough time or effort training their dogs. If you can't call back your dog from/before something really interesting then I don't consider it to be properly trained and it shouldn't be off the lead anywhere near other animals.

If I had a pound for every time Morris gets followed around our local fields by other dogs with the other dog owner repeatedly shouting the dogs name while their dog just ignores them I could afford my dream car.