They're only letting us use pencils to vote!!

[BOR]

Breitbart now reporting that Brexit voters are only being given crayons "on Health and Safety Grounds" which is a disgrace if you ask me, and typical of EU interference.

[Vocal Minority]

HarryW said:

Can I join in...

Serious question btw, why do they note the ballot paper number against your name on the list. I thought your vote was supposed to always remain annomous lest you fear retribution for making the wrong vote. By noting your name there is a direct route to seeing how you voted. Me not like that....

Yep - if they really want to find out how you voted. Really really want to - they can.

Been like that in all elections.

But then they have to pick you off the list and hunt down your ballot paper after the fact - which isn't terribly practical.

It wouldn't surprise me if votes for any extremist polititians were kept tabs on to be very honest. (But as said above there is zero actual evidence for this)

But for voting either way in the referendum or a mainstream party - nah.

[HarryW]

Efbe said:

HarryW said:

Can I join in...

Serious question btw, why do they note the ballot paper number against your name on the list. I thought your vote was supposed to always remain annomous lest you fear retribution for making the wrong vote. By noting your name there is a direct route to seeing how you voted. Me not like that....

???

Not sure why the ???, I'll assume you've voted before, so I'll spell it out in simpler terms.
Each ballot paper has a unique serial number. They note that serial number against your name when they issue it to you. If anyone gets hold of both the completed ballot papers and the list then your name and how you voted would become known. It is therefore not an anonymous voting system and could be open to abuse.... Not necessary a problem today but the information could be used against you.... Hence my chipping it in on a tinfoil hat thread.

[walm]

HarryW said:

If anyone gets hold of both the completed ballot papers and the list then your name and how you voted would become known. It is therefore not an anonymous voting system and could be open to abuse.... Not necessary a problem today but the information could be used against you...

How would that information be used against you?

[HarryW]

walm said:

HarryW said:

If anyone gets hold of both the completed ballot papers and the list then your name and how you voted would become known. It is therefore not an anonymous voting system and could be open to abuse.... Not necessary a problem today but the information could be used against you...

How would that information be used against you?

You do get this is a tinfoil hat thread, use your imagination..

[eldar]

HarryW said:

Not sure why the ???, I'll assume you've voted before, so I'll spell it out in simpler terms.
Each ballot paper has a unique serial number. They note that serial number against your name when they issue it to you. If anyone gets hold of both the completed ballot papers and the list then your name and how you voted would become known. It is therefore not an anonymous voting system and could be open to abuse.... Not necessary a problem today but the information could be used against you.... Hence my chipping it in on a tinfoil hat thread.

My understanding is that it is only used as part of voting fraud investigations, which is fairly rare, unless you live in Tower Hamlets.

And EU referendums, naturally, to make sure the Bremain subsidy only goes to the right voters.....

[Blaster72]

Efbe said:

HarryW said:

Can I join in...

Serious question btw, why do they note the ballot paper number against your name on the list. I thought your vote was supposed to always remain annomous lest you fear retribution for making the wrong vote. By noting your name there is a direct route to seeing how you voted. Me not like that....

???

Double ??? from me, they did no such thing at my Polling station.

I was more concerned at the homemade looking Blue Peter ballot box that my paper finally ended up in

Fingers crossed, my pencil cross helps swing things the right way.

[mph1977]

eldar said:

HarryW said:

Not sure why the ???, I'll assume you've voted before, so I'll spell it out in simpler terms.
Each ballot paper has a unique serial number. They note that serial number against your name when they issue it to you. If anyone gets hold of both the completed ballot papers and the list then your name and how you voted would become known. It is therefore not an anonymous voting system and could be open to abuse.... Not necessary a problem today but the information could be used against you.... Hence my chipping it in on a tinfoil hat thread.

My understanding is that it is only used as part of voting fraud investigations, which is fairly rare, unless you live in Tower Hamlets.

And EU referendums, naturally, to make sure the Bremain subsidy only goes to the right voters.....

they've got to allocate the shill slush fund some how ...

[vonuber]

Timmy40 said:

mph1977 said:

Timmy40 said:

TankRizzo said:

is this a wind up?

You won't be laughing when they come for you and you wake up blindfolded, gagged and being anally probed!

interesting another 'upstanding ' PH-er will a well developed sexual fantasy of being kidnapped and sodomised ...

Oh get a sense of humour you plank.

Whoooooosh?

[Vocal Minority]

Blaster72 said:

Double ??? from me, they did no such thing at my Polling station.

I was more concerned at the homemade looking Blue Peter ballot box that my paper finally ended up in

Fingers crossed, my pencil cross helps swing things the right way.

As you announced yourself at the polling station, they would have crossed you off a list and made a note of the ballot paper you were given by your polling card number - so it won't be in the same place as your name.

[eharding]

robemcdonald said:

vonuber said:

I'll tell you something else - on the door of the polling station I used there was a sign saying In with a big arrow on it..

The one I went to had several signs that said EXIT

I think Nigel Farage put them there.

At my polling station, there was a sign on clear display urging us to "Fire Exit", obviously an attempt at subliminal suggestion to dismiss the Leave campaign.

What an absolute disgrace. Chunter chunter, moan, whine, bed-wetter Remainians, etc etc etc

[eldar]

mph1977 said:

they've got to allocate the shill slush fund some how ...

I got the first tranche this morning. If the result goes the right way the bonus means a trip to the Porsche dealer tomorrow morning

[Digga]

Heaving at the polling station in my village - never seen it so busy.

I voted three times.

[mph1977]

eharding said:

robemcdonald said:

vonuber said:

I'll tell you something else - on the door of the polling station I used there was a sign saying In with a big arrow on it..

The one I went to had several signs that said EXIT

I think Nigel Farage put them there.

At my polling station, there was a sign on clear display urging us to "Fire Exit", obviously an attempt at subliminal suggestion to dismiss the Leave campaign.

What an absolute disgrace. Chunter chunter, moan, whine, bed-wetter Remainians, etc etc etc

you are Mike Corley AICMFP

[Mr GrimNasty]

My pencil was quite blunt, I wasn't sure if it was to prevent me self-harming or to prevent me getting the entire cock and balls within the box.

PS. Looks like a healthy turnout.

[dxg]

Digga said:

Heaving at the polling station in my village - never seen it so busy.

I voted three times.

Yup - queue out the door at my place and I tried to find a quite time. I wonder if a high turn out will delay results...

[Vocal Minority]

Apparently the govt are putting on boats and handing out free wellies for the flooding in the south east

But a minder has to look over your shoulder to make sure you vote remain

[Driller]

Kermit power said:

As I understand it, we use pencils simply because they're predictable. They don't smudge, they don't leak through the paper, and they're a consistent colour.

Fair enough, a few advantages but conversely wouldn't it be reasonable minimum to choose a stylus which wasn't easily erasable for the purposes of an important paper based vote? Madness.

Oh and your comment about our government being benevolent (my word), keep on consoling yourself with that soothing idea.

walm said:

The voting isn't run by the government.

If it were run by the government don't you think they would do a better job of staying in power for longer than 10 year stretches?

Ok "the powers that be" if you want to be pedantic.

Edited by Driller on Thursday 23 June 12:20

[98elise]

Driller said:

Good God the "ooh put your tin foil hat on missus" crowd really pisses me off. How naive do you have to be to imagine anyone in government isn't capable and willing to do anything underhand as a means to an end.

Encouraging the use of pencils because pen ink might fade? Are they going to count the papers this century? You have to be fking kidding me!

So you think they would sit and alter the real papers?

I'm no genius but if they wanted to fix the referendum they would simply burn the actual papers, and use a fresh new set all filled out the way they wanted it.

The problem with the tin foil hat merchants is their theories normally make no sense

[eharding]

Driller said:

Fair enough, a few advantages but conversely wouldn't it be reasonable minimum to choose a stylus which wasn't easily erasable for the purposes of an important paper based vote? Madness.

Oh and your comment about our government being benevolent (my word), keep on consoling yourself with that soothing idea.

You see that hat? - you've got one just like it, made entirely of tin foil. That's your tin-foil hat, that is, Missus.