Suella Braverman: ‘Islamists are in charge’
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reddiesel said:
We are getting a lot of retired early middle class turnips on here , doubtlessly anti brexit and anti conservative . This is why they can sit here all day and ping away their Guardianista Views till their hearts content
Firstly Housing . Local Authorities and Housing Associations give priority to these Immigrants , that’s why so many are already in Housing . This Housing in my experience is neither s
tty nor cheap which is fundamentally different from the experience of the Ugandan Asians expelled by Amin . You need to get your facts right
Must be a shame to have had the Conservatives in opposition and unable to change it for so long then? Firstly Housing . Local Authorities and Housing Associations give priority to these Immigrants , that’s why so many are already in Housing . This Housing in my experience is neither s
tty nor cheap which is fundamentally different from the experience of the Ugandan Asians expelled by Amin . You need to get your facts right colin_p said:
Slowboathome said:
colin_p said:
Do-do-do, come on and do the fifth column conga.
Do-do-do, it's fifth column conga night for sure.
We'd appreciate it if you could pDo-do-do, it's fifth column conga night for sure.
s off from this thread.This circle-jerk isn't for people like you.
Oh, why can't I join in
I knew there was something really familiar about you!
valiant said:
I see fellow headbanger, Lee Anderson, has gone full Islamophobic this evening. Would be GB News as well. They don’t even bother to disguise it anymore…
Don’t know how to embed tweets but it shouldn’t be too hard to find.
Can't embed here but can link toDon’t know how to embed tweets but it shouldn’t be too hard to find.
https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/17611020751...
Edited by Gareth79 on Friday 23 February 21:16
Slowboathome said:
colin_p said:
Do-do-do, come on and do the fifth column conga.
Do-do-do, it's fifth column conga night for sure.
We'd appreciate it if you could pDo-do-do, it's fifth column conga night for sure.
s off from this thread.This circle-jerk isn't for people like you.
captain_cynic said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Sacked twice.
Should tell you all you need to know.
Yep. Now just playing to the rabbit xenophobe base.Should tell you all you need to know.
Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
valiant said:
I see fellow headbanger, Lee Anderson, has gone full Islamophobic this evening. Would be GB News as well. They don’t even bother to disguise it anymore…
Don’t know how to embed tweets but it shouldn’t be too hard to find.
I would love to up hear your description of the made up word ‘islamaohobia’. Please explain what you think it means.Don’t know how to embed tweets but it shouldn’t be too hard to find.
Four Litre said:
I call BS on your statement. Do you really think Islam is compatible with British beliefs of tolerance and abiding by the law of the land you’re wearing blinkers.
Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
Ahh the good old anti Israeli Genocide is anti semitism bRecent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
ks. Dingu said:
Four Litre said:
I call BS on your statement. Do you really think Islam is compatible with British beliefs of tolerance and abiding by the law of the land you’re wearing blinkers.
Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
Ahh the good old anti Israeli Genocide is anti semitism bRecent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
ks. Four Litre said:
I call BS on your statement. Do you really think Islam is compatible with British beliefs of tolerance and abiding by the law of the land you’re wearing blinkers.
Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
Presumably not going into the Pakistani grooming gangs because they're such remarkably rare occurrences?Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
They came up on another thread recently and whilst they obviously make ideal tabloid headlines, you're talking about something like 220 people convicted in the past two decades, vs in the region of 7,000 people convicted for sexual crimes against children in the last year alone.
Four Litre said:
Dingu said:
Four Litre said:
I call BS on your statement. Do you really think Islam is compatible with British beliefs of tolerance and abiding by the law of the land you’re wearing blinkers.
Recent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
Ahh the good old anti Israeli Genocide is anti semitism bRecent events in London have really shown their true colours as being conpletely anti-Semitic and pretty much looking to force the government into aligning with their views.
Never has the saying ‘cut the grass and the snakes will show’ been more apt.
I won’t even go into the Pakistani grooming gangs as you will probably say it’s a coincidence.
ks. Kermit power said:
Presumably not going into the Pakistani grooming gangs because they're such remarkably rare occurrences?
They came up on another thread recently and whilst they obviously make ideal tabloid headlines, you're talking about something like 220 people convicted in the past two decades, vs in the region of 7,000 people convicted for sexual crimes against children in the last year alone.
The difference is, is it not, that something gets done about other other 7000 promptly....whereas it takes 2 decades to prosecute 220 people through fear of repercussions.They came up on another thread recently and whilst they obviously make ideal tabloid headlines, you're talking about something like 220 people convicted in the past two decades, vs in the region of 7,000 people convicted for sexual crimes against children in the last year alone.
Edited by julian987R on Friday 23 February 23:45
I’m an immigrant. This not the equivalent to moving to Spain or Canada.
Have I leant the language - somewhat.
Have I left all my (lack of) beliefs at the door - nope. Does anyone get worked up about my beliefs, not so far.
Have I changed my ideas of what is and isn’t moral/human rights/decent etc? Not really.
Will my daughter be brought up in the predominant religion in the region or country- no.
(In fact it would be almost impossible for to become a member of the predominant one, except via marriage)
Seek out friends from same country of origin? No.
Have friends that are from the new country - some. It’s not always easy, trust issues.
Adopted the culture - won’t happen. Respect it - mostly yes.
Are immigrants like me changing the country? Absolutely.
Different work ethic, making money, buying land, upping the game.
My daughter will have elements of three or (possibly five) cultures. She will certainly not be entirely of this one or of british culture.
I have no idea why your ‘muslims’ or whatever should come to uk and immediately become British (whatever that is) , even third gen. I have third gen English friends of Indian descent but some still retain some ‘cultural identity’.
I meet people here that try to live the lifestyle of their country of origin - to me that’s crazy. Equally crazy is imagining that people will immediately switch to new values etc on moving to a new country.
Pet hate of mine is people saying ‘oh you have to meet John, he’s English as well’ - like that means we’ll have much in common.
Have I leant the language - somewhat.
Have I left all my (lack of) beliefs at the door - nope. Does anyone get worked up about my beliefs, not so far.
Have I changed my ideas of what is and isn’t moral/human rights/decent etc? Not really.
Will my daughter be brought up in the predominant religion in the region or country- no.
(In fact it would be almost impossible for to become a member of the predominant one, except via marriage)
Seek out friends from same country of origin? No.
Have friends that are from the new country - some. It’s not always easy, trust issues.
Adopted the culture - won’t happen. Respect it - mostly yes.
Are immigrants like me changing the country? Absolutely.
Different work ethic, making money, buying land, upping the game.
My daughter will have elements of three or (possibly five) cultures. She will certainly not be entirely of this one or of british culture.
I have no idea why your ‘muslims’ or whatever should come to uk and immediately become British (whatever that is) , even third gen. I have third gen English friends of Indian descent but some still retain some ‘cultural identity’.
I meet people here that try to live the lifestyle of their country of origin - to me that’s crazy. Equally crazy is imagining that people will immediately switch to new values etc on moving to a new country.
Pet hate of mine is people saying ‘oh you have to meet John, he’s English as well’ - like that means we’ll have much in common.
Edited by jdw100 on Saturday 24th February 01:18
I have friends from a wide range of social backgrounds, countries of origin, religious beliefs etc.
One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
We think of Homo sapiens as the most intelligent, top of the food chain species, but at the same time we are still prepared to go to war about whose imaginary sky-friend/God is better on the basis of books allegedly written 2000 years ago.
It's absurd, if I was granted one wish it would be that all religion ceased worldwide.
One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
We think of Homo sapiens as the most intelligent, top of the food chain species, but at the same time we are still prepared to go to war about whose imaginary sky-friend/God is better on the basis of books allegedly written 2000 years ago.
It's absurd, if I was granted one wish it would be that all religion ceased worldwide.
Edited by OzzyR1 on Saturday 24th February 01:54
OzzyR1 said:
I have friends from a wide range of social backgrounds, countries of origin, religious beliefs etc.
One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
I think that’s a good summary. Most people just want to get on with life and family.One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
jdw100 said:
OzzyR1 said:
I have friends from a wide range of social backgrounds, countries of origin, religious beliefs etc.
One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
I think that’s a good summary. Most people just want to get on with life and family.One thing my friends all have in common, is that they are not a c**t.
It's not a big ask to not be a c**t, most people manage to do it as standard.
The religious fundementalists are at fault, even though they are a tiny minority - whether Muslim, Christian or other - f**king lunatics.
Don't know any Muslims who are adherents to the exact wording of Islamic scripture either.
99% of Muslims/Christians couldn't give a s
t.It's the 1% of c**ts that make headlines and are then exaggerated by the appalling tabloid press.
julian987R said:
Kermit power said:
Presumably not going into the Pakistani grooming gangs because they're such remarkably rare occurrences?
They came up on another thread recently and whilst they obviously make ideal tabloid headlines, you're talking about something like 220 people convicted in the past two decades, vs in the region of 7,000 people convicted for sexual crimes against children in the last year alone.
The difference is, is it not, that something gets done about other other 7000 promptly....whereas it takes 2 decades to prosecute 220 people through fear of repercussions.They came up on another thread recently and whilst they obviously make ideal tabloid headlines, you're talking about something like 220 people convicted in the past two decades, vs in the region of 7,000 people convicted for sexual crimes against children in the last year alone.
You say there were delays in prosecuting them through fear of repercussions and there may well have been, especially if their victims themselves weren't pressing charges, but then again there have been plenty of cases where white people have evaded prosecution for decades for exactly the same reason - Jimmy Savile, Cyril Smith, various priests and teachers, etc, etc - so what makes the failings over Pakistani gangs anything particularly more serious?
Then there's the fact that they're singling out white girls as though that's indicative of some sort of race war. Do you honestly believe that, or can you accept that just maybe they, just like vile people of any other group, will seek out the weakest available victims to prey on?
Many of the people who do claim there's some sort of racial motive in Muslim men preying on white girls will also be the first in line to point to the way Muslim girls are tightly controlled by their families and made to wear a burka whether they want to or not and they may well be right to call them out on that, but there's no denying that a Muslim girl being controlled in that fashion is simply less available to being preyed on by non family members, is there?
People (mostly men, but not exclusively) who commit sex crimes against other people are complete scumbags, but whilst this one rare and very particular model of criminal behaviour might have been predominantly committed by Pakistani men, there is simply nothing at all to suggest that Pakistani men are any more or less likely overall to commit a sex crime than a man in any other demographic.
Strange isn't it.
Braverman, Truss, and Anderson have all been peddling or endorsing a variety of Islamophobic, racist, and far right conspiracy theories this week but still people stick up for them.
That's a former Home Secretary a former Prime Minister and a recent Deputy Chair of the Conservative Party.
As someone pointed out if someone had written an article in a national newspaper titled "Jews are in charge of Britain now" there would be an expectation that they be kicked out.
Instead people defend this shower of dogst.
What has happened to them?
Braverman, Truss, and Anderson have all been peddling or endorsing a variety of Islamophobic, racist, and far right conspiracy theories this week but still people stick up for them.
That's a former Home Secretary a former Prime Minister and a recent Deputy Chair of the Conservative Party.
As someone pointed out if someone had written an article in a national newspaper titled "Jews are in charge of Britain now" there would be an expectation that they be kicked out.
Instead people defend this shower of dogs
t.What has happened to them?
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