Bloke killed in Supermarket
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V8S said:
ukwill said:
forza whites said:
Well the nutter boyfriend (already on a curfew) got 4 years and the 'female' 18 months...Seem they got off lightly for taking a life.
Both of those sentences are a disgrace. It saddens me.
This is another example of the manslaughter crap being used, to give an incredibly short sentence to a total f
king dirt ball who should hang for murder.
I accept that he didn't probably intend to kill the victim when he went into the store, nor even probably when he swung the punch, but the bottom line is his temper and his disposition for violence cost a man his life.
We need a charge of second degree murder in this country.
To my mind, manslaughter is causing death through negligence, carelessness or incompetence. Tragic, but none the less an accident with good or neutral intentions. An act of violence which has consequences greater than those intended is an entirely different kettle of fish.
It's all well and good to say we need the death penalty, well obviously, but this cretin wouldn't have got it anyway. Until we have judges with brains handing out sentences that mean something, we're fked.
king dirt ball who should hang for murder.I accept that he didn't probably intend to kill the victim when he went into the store, nor even probably when he swung the punch, but the bottom line is his temper and his disposition for violence cost a man his life.
We need a charge of second degree murder in this country.
To my mind, manslaughter is causing death through negligence, carelessness or incompetence. Tragic, but none the less an accident with good or neutral intentions. An act of violence which has consequences greater than those intended is an entirely different kettle of fish.
It's all well and good to say we need the death penalty, well obviously, but this cretin wouldn't have got it anyway. Until we have judges with brains handing out sentences that mean something, we're f
ked.V8S said:
ukwill said:
forza whites said:
Well the nutter boyfriend (already on a curfew) got 4 years and the 'female' 18 months...Seem they got off lightly for taking a life.
Both of those sentences are a disgrace. It saddens me.
mark_davies said:
Man kills stranger gets 4 years
Mum lies to police to protect son ( even though he was a murderer ) gets 3 years
I know I'll get flamed to death for this, and will probably regret saying it, but I saw that story and thought the same. I also couldn't help noticing one difference, being the colour of the defendants skin.Mum lies to police to protect son ( even though he was a murderer ) gets 3 years
There have been a couple of cases in the last few years where someone from an ethnic minority has been convicted of manslaughter for a very violent killing. I don't remember the names in either case but there was the banker who was stabbed in his home, and a man who was stabbed on a bus in, I think Hackney. Sure someone will know the cases I mean.
I don't know whether it's judges being lenient out of fear of being labeled racist, liberal guilt, or just a coincidence given the high profile cases, and yes I know it happens to whites too, like the Welsh vigilante the other day, but cases like this seem a great way to stir up all kinds of resentment to me.
I also notice the news article linked above shows a picture of the woman, who is white, but not of the killer, who is not.
V8S said:
What has it got to do with anything that her teenage daughter gave birth 4 months previously?
What awful journalism.
It does help paint a picture about what sort of people they are. If the article said woman, 37 ; you really can't assume anything about her. Woman, 37 who is a grandmother ; you start to get a much better picture of the sort of person this is. What awful journalism.
oyster said:
Why were the charges downgraded from murder to manslaughter? It seems pretty clear that the man tried to land a hefty blow to Mr Tripp. Does it matter that the actual death occured from the victim hitting his head on the floor? The fact is that he hit his head as a DIRECT result of the slap from the charged.
It's a pathetic sentence for sure, but murder has to have definite pre-meditation so I doubt he could ever be found guilty of murder in the UK.
Pesty said:
Does the automatic almost halving of a sentence still happen with manslaughter?
i.e will he be out in just over 2 years?
With time served on remand out in 12 months and that will be served in a cat C i.e will he be out in just over 2 years?
Side note, he had a previous sentence of 5 years for burglary and it always amazes me in the UK that property has more value than a persons life when it comes to sentencing.
thehawk said:
oyster said:
Why were the charges downgraded from murder to manslaughter? It seems pretty clear that the man tried to land a hefty blow to Mr Tripp. Does it matter that the actual death occured from the victim hitting his head on the floor? The fact is that he hit his head as a DIRECT result of the slap from the charged.
It's a pathetic sentence for sure, but murder has to have definite pre-meditation so I doubt he could ever be found guilty of murder in the UK.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff