UKIP - The Future - Volume 4

[anonymous-user]

FiF said:

so just STFU for a while.

Whilst that would be a welcome change for Farage, I fear he is congenitally incapable of keeping his big flapping yap shut.

[Mr_B]

Looks like Ukip might join the post referendum political party shooting yourself in the foot game.

http://order-order.com/2016/07/01/farage-carswell-...

[ninjacost]

Carswell was a tory plant from day one ,only there to try and make mischief and try to oust Farage .

Mr_B said:

Looks like Ukip might join the post referendum political party shooting yourself in the foot game.

http://order-order.com/2016/07/01/farage-carswell-...

[jjlynn27]

FiF said:

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Even now Farage is spouting off rejecting the EFTA option as "not what we voted for." Funnily enough Nige, some of us did, and it's despite you and your ilk that t got as much traction as it did, and continues to grow. It's possibly the only / best way to pull this fractured country back together at the moment so just STFU for a while.

Well said.

As a remainer, the EFTA option seems like a 'best of the rest'. I just don't see appetite from Norway, could be it's still too early.

[don4l]

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

[alfie2244]

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

Just Junker to go to complete the full set then?

eta I do realise he's not been in post as long

[PositronicRay]

alfie2244 said:

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

Just Junker to go to complete the full set then?

eta I do realise he's not been in post as long

He resigned after failing to get his seat, UKIP asked him to stay on because he was the least worst.

Think of UKIP as pressure group rather than a political party.

[alfie2244]

PositronicRay said:

alfie2244 said:

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

Just Junker to go to complete the full set then?

eta I do realise he's not been in post as long

He resigned after failing to get his seat, UKIP asked him to stay on because he was the least worst.

Think of UKIP as pressure group rather than a political party.

Is this the same seat that the Tories are being investigated about for possible infringements of law? Had a fair bit of influence on politics for a pressure group of uneducated, left behind, old farts.......Just ask Dave, Boris and a few others.

[PositronicRay]

You can hardly call a political party where the leader fails to gain a seat. The only seat gained was a Tory defector. Is this credible for heavens sake?

A one trick pony & pressure group, a bit like the green party.

[alfie2244]

PositronicRay said:

You can hardly call a political party where the leader fails to gain a seat. The only seat gained was a Tory defector. Is this credible for heavens sake?

A one trick pony & pressure group, a bit like the green party.

Credible enough to drive the other "proper" political parties to implode and give a referendum and stab each other in the back so they must have thought it credible otherwise why run around like chickens with their heads chopped off?

[don4l]

alfie2244 said:

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

Just Junker to go to complete the full set then?

eta I do realise he's not been in post as long

Also Schulz and Tusk.

I cannot see Junker lasting very long at all.

Hers is a YouTube of Junker not falling over... but only just.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fASN9oYGdw

[Axionknight]

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

Alex Salmond didn't, he thankfully lost his referendum and fell on his sword.

[PositronicRay]

alfie2244 said:

PositronicRay said:

You can hardly call a political party where the leader fails to gain a seat. The only seat gained was a Tory defector. Is this credible for heavens sake?

A one trick pony & pressure group, a bit like the green party.

Credible enough to drive the other "proper" political parties to implode and give a referendum and stab each other in the back so they must have thought it credible otherwise why run around like chickens with their heads chopped off?

Oh can't win seats so divide, destroy and go for anarchy then. There's democracy for you.

[alfie2244]

PositronicRay said:

alfie2244 said:

PositronicRay said:

You can hardly call a political party where the leader fails to gain a seat. The only seat gained was a Tory defector. Is this credible for heavens sake?

A one trick pony & pressure group, a bit like the green party.

Credible enough to drive the other "proper" political parties to implode and give a referendum and stab each other in the back so they must have thought it credible otherwise why run around like chickens with their heads chopped off?

Oh can't win seats so divide, destroy and go for anarchy then. There's democracy for you.

Nah 52 v 48 = OUT with no ifs or buts - that's democracy for you..The EU project has always been fatally flawed to those that wished to see it so I would say don't shoot the people that opened the public's eyes to this but those that have spent years trying to cover those flaws up.

[Countdown]

don4l said:

Interesting piece in the Telegraph today.

They have suggested that Nigel is currently the most influential man in politics today.

They seem to have a good point.

Of all the party leaders from 2013, he is the only one still in place.

The others all lost their jobs because of Nigel.

So influential that he was deliberately sidelined by the Vote Leave campaign.... Had he been in charge we would not now be discussing how best to excecute Brexit.

[alfie2244]

Countdown said:

So influential that he was deliberately sidelined by the Vote Leave campaign.... Had he been in charge we would not now be discussing how best to excecute Brexit.

The exact reason why, IMO, he was deliberately sidelined in the 1st place....he would take us out with no ifs, buts, or maybes...Boris never really wanted out and let the cat out of the bag when he spoke of "renegotiation post a Brexit vote" IIRC.

[Countdown]

alfie2244 said:

The exact reason why, IMO, he was deliberately sidelined in the 1st place....he would take us out with no ifs, buts, or maybes...Boris never really wanted out and let the cat out of the bag when he spoke of "renegotiation post a Brexit vote" IIRC.

That doesn't make sense to me. had he been the figurehead of the Leave campaign he still wouldn't have had any more influence over how quickly we leave. This is going to be determined by Parliament. He isn't in Parliament, he didn't get enough votes. So I'm not sure how he could have taken us out any quicker?

[alfie2244]

Countdown said:

alfie2244 said:

The exact reason why, IMO, he was deliberately sidelined in the 1st place....he would take us out with no ifs, buts, or maybes...Boris never really wanted out and let the cat out of the bag when he spoke of "renegotiation post a Brexit vote" IIRC.

That doesn't make sense to me. had he been the figurehead of the Leave campaign he still wouldn't have had any more influence over how quickly we leave. This is going to be determined by Parliament. He isn't in Parliament, he didn't get enough votes. So I'm not sure how he could have taken us out any quicker?

So on that reasoning Dodgy Dave offering a referendum had nothing to do with Farage?

[PositronicRay]

Countdown said:

alfie2244 said:

The exact reason why, IMO, he was deliberately sidelined in the 1st place....he would take us out with no ifs, buts, or maybes...Boris never really wanted out and let the cat out of the bag when he spoke of "renegotiation post a Brexit vote" IIRC.

That doesn't make sense to me. had he been the figurehead of the Leave campaign he still wouldn't have had any more influence over how quickly we leave. This is going to be determined by Parliament. He isn't in Parliament, he didn't get enough votes. So I'm not sure how he could have taken us out any quicker?

Deluded the lot of them. NF is a nasty piece of work who's spent the last 17yrs undermining UK/EU relations. This bunch think he's a saint and saviour.

[alfie2244]

PositronicRay said:

Countdown said:

alfie2244 said:

The exact reason why, IMO, he was deliberately sidelined in the 1st place....he would take us out with no ifs, buts, or maybes...Boris never really wanted out and let the cat out of the bag when he spoke of "renegotiation post a Brexit vote" IIRC.

That doesn't make sense to me. had he been the figurehead of the Leave campaign he still wouldn't have had any more influence over how quickly we leave. This is going to be determined by Parliament. He isn't in Parliament, he didn't get enough votes. So I'm not sure how he could have taken us out any quicker?

Deluded the lot of them. NF is a nasty piece of work who's spent the last 17yrs undermining UK/EU relations. This bunch think he's a saint and saviour.

Only 17yrs?.....He's a Johny come lately then.