Balanced Question Time panel tonight - of course not!
Discussion
Mermaid said:
Sargeant Orange said:
They couldn't fit into British society so they f'd off to ISIS? What happened to personal responsibly for your actions?
It's all our fault, don't you know?
e and that they would probably happily do gods work and such off jihaddy John while he was decapitating the Aussie fking idiot.I've had enough with all this cobblers about 'radicalisation'.
That's just the latest buzz word from the meeja types that infect everyone. Like 'diversity', 'multiculturalism','people of colour' (sorry, color) and 'disaffected'. At best it provides a rallying cry for chatterboxes and rabble rousers to shore up their pathetic existence. The uptake by young people of extremist exhortations is not terrorist based and not extremism, nor is it 'radicalisation'.
All that is just a refusal to accept the responsibility for what it actually is. Every generation goes through the difficult years of adolescence and the rebellious nature of youngster coming to terms with their emotional and social development, not to mention burgeoning sexuality. In these headline cases the young people are struggling against the rigours of their parents' cultures versus the relatively licentious free for all they see around them. Any message, cleverly put, will be an instant success to those young minds.
It also applies to older youngsters who find it difficult to find their place amongst their peers because of personality differences that set them apart. While the problem is misdiagnosed there isn't a hope in hell of reaching the most effective remedy. It's growing pains in an atmosphere of religious dogma, familial dominance, and hormones. In my youth it was Teddy Boys. Later LSD. Later Punk. Later insert drug of choice. Later Rap. The difference between all those and today's problem is the influence of a repressive religion and the desperation of the youngsters trying to escape it. How desperate those kids must be.
That's just the latest buzz word from the meeja types that infect everyone. Like 'diversity', 'multiculturalism','people of colour' (sorry, color) and 'disaffected'. At best it provides a rallying cry for chatterboxes and rabble rousers to shore up their pathetic existence. The uptake by young people of extremist exhortations is not terrorist based and not extremism, nor is it 'radicalisation'.
All that is just a refusal to accept the responsibility for what it actually is. Every generation goes through the difficult years of adolescence and the rebellious nature of youngster coming to terms with their emotional and social development, not to mention burgeoning sexuality. In these headline cases the young people are struggling against the rigours of their parents' cultures versus the relatively licentious free for all they see around them. Any message, cleverly put, will be an instant success to those young minds.
It also applies to older youngsters who find it difficult to find their place amongst their peers because of personality differences that set them apart. While the problem is misdiagnosed there isn't a hope in hell of reaching the most effective remedy. It's growing pains in an atmosphere of religious dogma, familial dominance, and hormones. In my youth it was Teddy Boys. Later LSD. Later Punk. Later insert drug of choice. Later Rap. The difference between all those and today's problem is the influence of a repressive religion and the desperation of the youngsters trying to escape it. How desperate those kids must be.
Charles Kennedy was not at his best last night at all. Didn't really make any clear points and seem to lose track of what was going on quite a lot...... .
That bloody conservative woman though... she couldn't go more than 20 seconds without interrupting somebody, so incredibly rude. The green party actually have some decent views but the woman leading the party is not up to the job at all. Labour.. well what can you say... if they told you the sky was blue you would look up to check for yourself.
Also does anybody else get sick of hearing politicians say "what the public want...." followed by a load of BS.
That bloody conservative woman though... she couldn't go more than 20 seconds without interrupting somebody, so incredibly rude. The green party actually have some decent views but the woman leading the party is not up to the job at all. Labour.. well what can you say... if they told you the sky was blue you would look up to check for yourself.
Also does anybody else get sick of hearing politicians say "what the public want...." followed by a load of BS.
CoolC said:
VolvoT5 said:
Also does anybody else get sick of hearing politicians say "what the public want...." followed by a load of BS.
Followed closely by "I speak to many members of the public who tell me <insert party policy here>" bks do you.
I don't know really. It is quite depressing that these people are supposed to be the most well educated and qualified people to do the job of representing us and leading the country. They are so obsessed with party political nonsense that they miss the fact that all MOST people want is simple things, like decent schools, hospitals, transport, strong policing, etc.
I doubt very few people actually care about "the economy" in the way politicians apply the term or "Britain's role in the world"...etc.
I doubt very few people actually care about "the economy" in the way politicians apply the term or "Britain's role in the world"...etc.
I can forgive a lot of things, but the blinkered partisan confirmation bias (which isn't just politicians, just look at the JC thread) that continues the old silly rigmarole....it just makes me think of Gulliver's Travels, or Ankh-Morpork or Monty Python. The stuff that gets said (about Russia, about JC about anything...and I type this as I watch Oliver Stone's History of the USA) just makes me despair of the whole silly mess.
VolvoT5 said:
I don't know really. It is quite depressing that these people are supposed to be the most well educated and qualified people to do the job of representing us and leading the country.
Soubry is a Barrister? She was like an excited school kid sat on the back seat upstairs on the bus.
Perhaps she's been getting media training from Katie Hopkins?
carinaman said:
VolvoT5 said:
I don't know really. It is quite depressing that these people are supposed to be the most well educated and qualified people to do the job of representing us and leading the country.
Soubry is a Barrister? She was like an excited school kid sat on the back seat upstairs on the bus.
Perhaps she's been getting media training from Katie Hopkins?
techiedave said:
carinaman said:
VolvoT5 said:
I don't know really. It is quite depressing that these people are supposed to be the most well educated and qualified people to do the job of representing us and leading the country.
Soubry is a Barrister? She was like an excited school kid sat on the back seat upstairs on the bus.
Perhaps she's been getting media training from Katie Hopkins?
eccles said:
techiedave said:
carinaman said:
VolvoT5 said:
I don't know really. It is quite depressing that these people are supposed to be the most well educated and qualified people to do the job of representing us and leading the country.
Soubry is a Barrister? She was like an excited school kid sat on the back seat upstairs on the bus.
Perhaps she's been getting media training from Katie Hopkins?
An attention-seeker with an over-inflated ego, basically.
forsure said:
I noticed her in the real Question Time (in Parliament) this week. She really plays up the pantomime aspect of it with much noise accompanied by exaggerated gestures and facial expressions.
An attention-seeker with an over-inflated ego, basically.
Her boss probably knows she is a media liability, but too late to do anything at this stage - and perhaps the elections her tiny majority will get the job done for himAn attention-seeker with an over-inflated ego, basically.
forsure said:
I noticed her in the real Question Time (in Parliament) this week. She really plays up the pantomime aspect of it with much noise accompanied by exaggerated gestures and facial expressions.
An attention-seeker with an over-inflated ego, basically.
So what you're saying is...maybe great in bed then?An attention-seeker with an over-inflated ego, basically.
eccles said:
God knows why she's on QT so much. She seems to be the only Tory minister to ever be on and she does so much damage to the Tory image. Constantly interrupting, talking down to people, she can't answer points, gets thing wrong, she reminds of a Tory Harriet Harman!
Somebody round here once said there wasn't really a BBC left wing bias, months ago in a relevant threadhmm
deadslow said:
eccles said:
God knows why she's on QT so much. She seems to be the only Tory minister to ever be on and she does so much damage to the Tory image. Constantly interrupting, talking down to people, she can't answer points, gets thing wrong
Sorry, pal, just a bog standard Tory then. s2art said:
deadslow said:
eccles said:
God knows why she's on QT so much. She seems to be the only Tory minister to ever be on and she does so much damage to the Tory image. Constantly interrupting, talking down to people, she can't answer points, gets thing wrong
Sorry, pal, just a bog standard Tory then. 
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