Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 2]

Is the end nigh for the Euro? [vol. 2]

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Wills2

23,291 posts

177 months

Friday 1st February 2013
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What's is going on with the pound? Slipped to 1.14 against the Euro is this the effect of QE?

Driller

8,310 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Yes, it's rather splendid isn't it?

I have to say, in a totally gentlemanly but competitive way, in the terms of the this thread I've been rather enjoying the last week or so biggrin

It surely won't last, when those in charge decide to make it go the other way though so they can make more money again.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Wills2 said:
What's is going on with the pound? Slipped to 1.14 against the Euro is this the effect of QE?
Not really. Bad news in terms of UK deficit and economy, bullst readily swallowed from EZ about Greece making progress (!) a consensus from the ECB etc etc.

When did we stop working on facts and truth and start relying on wishful thinking?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Mermaid said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
About 3 years ago I went to the Netherlands and the bloomin' exchange rate at that time was painful at 1:1 !
Not sure if it got to 1:1, but pretty closeat 98p to the Euro, so a 'tourist' rate would probably be around 1:1
Yup, that's what it was.

Steffan

10,362 posts

230 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Disturbing article on apparent corruption in the Spanish government see:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21305154

If there is any truth in this at all the fantasy of Spanish recovery could be shredded whatever the EU try to spin this into. The general distrust of politicians by the electorate is growing across the failing states in the EU. Clearly something has been going on with a former party treasurer who had upwards of 20 million in his bank account, now under money laundering investigation. The plot thickens.


Art0ir

9,402 posts

172 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Steffan said:
Disturbing article on apparent corruption in the Spanish government see:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21305154

If there is any truth in this at all the fantasy of Spanish recovery could be shredded whatever the EU try to spin this into. The general distrust of politicians by the electorate is growing across the failing states in the EU. Clearly something has been going on with a former party treasurer who had upwards of 20 million in his bank account, now under money laundering investigation. The plot thickens.
Violence could be well on the way across Europe, almost all the ingredients are there.

Driller

8,310 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Yes, I expect there will be civil war soon. No, nuclear war, that's it. Nuclear.

A quite large nuclear war between all the European countries which will then evaporate in a flash and a sort of "phut" type noise leaving only a circle-made-of-stars shape in the ground and a faint wiff of cordite.

The UK will go from strength to strength and the pound will grow so muscular they will need Union Jack adorned struts to prop it up and people will come and visit the hole in the ground where the unfortunate Europe used to be for their holidays and fathers will turn to their children and recount in grave voices that this is what happens when you dare to speak a foreign language and want to get together with other people speaking others foreign languages and use the same money.

Yeah.

LongQ

13,864 posts

235 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Driller said:
Yes, I expect there will be civil war soon. No, nuclear war, that's it. Nuclear.

A quite large nuclear war between all the European countries which will then evaporate in a flash and a sort of "phut" type noise leaving only a circle-made-of-stars shape in the ground and a faint wiff of cordite.

The UK will go from strength to strength and the pound will grow so muscular they will need Union Jack adorned struts to prop it up and people will come and visit the hole in the ground where the unfortunate Europe used to be for their holidays and fathers will turn to their children and recount in grave voices that this is what happens when you dare to speak a foreign language and want to get together with other people speaking others foreign languages and use the same money.

Yeah.
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Been clearing out old stock in the medicine cabinet Driller?

Driller

8,310 posts

280 months

Saturday 2nd February 2013
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Well, everyone else was getting hysterical and sensationalist and I just thought I'd join in.

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Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Driller said:
Well, everyone else was getting hysterical and sensationalist and I just thought I'd join in.

wink
Hmmm, you say "a sort of "phut" type noise", can you elaborate on this a bit please?

Driller

8,310 posts

280 months

Sunday 3rd February 2013
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Indeed.

It would probably start out a bit like a gentle but wide-form whooshing sound, the volume of which would gradually rise whilst the frequency range narrowed, reaching a crescendo 2 to 3 seconds later, to be suddenly cut-off with a percussive and staccato "TAC!"-like report.

But it wouldn't stop there.

The resounding echo would peal off in multiples and ricochet off the walls of the newly nascent star-circled chasm and be drawn up by the rapidly evaporating inferno-born gases into an accelerating and ascending vortex, transforming the echoing "TAC!" into a rising, deafening whine which would reverberate out over the now desolate terrain, progressively dispersing and fading away to leave a foreboding, oppressive silence.



Edited by Driller on Sunday 3rd February 20:45

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Driller said:
Indeed.

It would probably start out a bit like a gentle but wide-form whooshing sound, the volume of which would gradually rise whilst the frequency range narrowed, reaching a crescendo 2 to 3 seconds later, to be suddenly cut-off with a percussive and staccato "TAC!"-like report.

But it wouldn't stop there.

The resounding echo would peal off in multiples and ricochet off the walls of the newly nascent star-circled chasm and be drawn up by the rapidly evaporating inferno-born gases into an accelerating and ascending vortex, transforming the echoing "TAC!" into a rising, deafening whine which would reverberate out over the now desolate terrain, progressively dispersing and fading away to leave a foreboding, oppressive silence.
lol.

Globs

13,841 posts

233 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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biggrin

Irish

3,991 posts

241 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Meanwhile in Ireland:

"January's Exchequer figures show a 3% rise in tax revenues compared to the same month last year, but Government spending rose by just over 7%, driven primarily by the Department of Social Protection"

Europe is getting more bankrupt by the month - unfortunately so is the UK.

Steffan

10,362 posts

230 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Ain't that the truth! I do wonder which will break first. The politicians in both camps are absolutely interested only in themselves and not in the country they represent.

The UK, largely by luck, has still got the ability to adjust sterling. Other than that I think both gooses are well and truly cooked. Time will tell. What cannot continue is whole nations living beyond their means and being comfortable with that choice. Not for long.

Irish

3,991 posts

241 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Steffan said:
Ain't that the truth! I do wonder which will break first. The politicians in both camps are absolutely interested only in themselves and not in the country they represent.

The UK, largely by luck, has still got the ability to adjust sterling. Other than that I think both gooses are well and truly cooked. Time will tell. What cannot continue is whole nations living beyond their means and being comfortable with that choice. Not for long.
The problem Steffan is that Japan has been in that state for 15 years.......

Driller

8,310 posts

280 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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But if everyone is fked, surely on balance everyone must be fine and dandy?

longblackcoat

5,047 posts

185 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Driller said:
But if everyone is fked, surely on balance everyone must be fine and dandy?
And so the dance goes on.......regardless of all the dire prognostications and the wish of many that the Euro would collapse, the fact that it hasn't happened yet makes me think that it never will. There's no real sense to it, and the rules keep changing on an almost daily basis, but I'm prepared to bet* that the Euro will still be here for the next decade.


  • A small amount. Perhaps €10.

completetangent

1,165 posts

154 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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longblackcoat said:
And so the dance goes on.......regardless of all the dire prognostications and the wish of many that the Euro would collapse, the fact that it hasn't happened yet makes me think that it never will. There's no real sense to it, and the rules keep changing on an almost daily basis, but I'm prepared to bet* that the Euro will still be here for the next decade.


  • A small amount. Perhaps €10.
Methinks that someone with real cojones would bet £10.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

249 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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longblackcoat said:
And so the dance goes on.......regardless of all the dire prognostications and the wish of many that the Euro would collapse, the fact that it hasn't happened yet makes me think that it never will. There's no real sense to it, and the rules keep changing on an almost daily basis, but I'm prepared to bet* that the Euro will still be here for the next decade.


  • A small amount. Perhaps €10.
So youre betting ten of something that that something won't exist? Nice work, have you applied for a job at the ECB?
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