UK asylum seekers expected to be flown to Rwanda

[Blue62]

ATG said:

President Merkin said:

Passing legislation that insists lies are truths is not what rational governments do, This law is peak Tory, eye wateringly expensive legislation rooted in an untruth forced onto the statute book by mediocre people.

Fully expect the usual crowd to tell me to cry harder or something but it's ok, I'm content in the knowledge I would never debase myself to the point of supporting a law that deports desperate people to an unsafe country.

Quite.

The utter stupidity of passing this law is that they now have to try to make it work. The curtain is being pulled back. Michael Tomlinson (the minister for illegal migration, no less) has just made a fool of himself on the Today programme because he is completely incapable of explaining how the policy actually delivers anything useful. He was simply asked "now that you've passed this law, how are you going to use it?" He couldn't even answer that. He spoke faster and faster to try to fill the intellectual vacuum and ended up saying "becoz Labour."

At what stage do their final few supporters throw in the towel and accept that the Conservatives have done nothing but bluff for the last 8 years?

Tomlinson is yet another cannon fodder minister set up to face off the media on what is a ridiculous bill, costs, energy, time and toil all completely out of proportion with what is effectively a drop in the ocean when it comes to the issue of immigration. Labour will rightly reverse it when in office, what a hideous bunch we have running the country right now.

[croyde]

I really can't believe that this version of Ground Hog day is still carrying on, and to such a ludicrous cost to the tax payer.

Even if they succeed, a plane only seats maybe 200, so many flights a day, 7 days a week?

The idea is just nuts and I can't believe even Sunak thinks it's workable yet he seems to think he has to continue, at any price.

Come On Richi! you stopped HS2 for good or bad, so stop this utter nonsense.....NOW!

[abzmike]

valiant said:

bhstewie said:

£500M so far isn't it?

Wonder what the next excuse will be.

Apparently they’ve also found thousands of hours worth of court time, hundreds of judges to sit in these cases and other legal staff to administer it.

Must be comforting to those waiting for justice for sometimes over a year because of cuts to the justice system that resources can be found when it’s expedient for political aims…

My thought exactly - Criminal justice system in meltdown, serious cases taking years to reach trial, less serious but still troubling crimes being dropped, and now seeming vast resources are immediatley avialable. 500 Home Office staff trained... But priorities... the most important issue facing the country... apparently.

[President Merkin]

reddiesel said:

272BHP said:

You and people who think like you really are part of the problem.

I 100% agree with that summation .

I'm relaxed about that. If you want to swallow a diet of lies from the Mail & the Express, that's your business but not only are they lying to you, so is the Government that had to pass a law insisting a country where the president scores 99% of the vote is a safe place. I could never be that supine, ymmv.

[captain_cynic]

reddiesel said:

272BHP said:

You and people who think like you really are part of the problem.

I 100% agree with that summation .

And the "problem" is a complete fabrication made to please people who struggle to live in reality and distract them from real issues that are actually affecting lives.

So I really don't care if I'm part of an imaginary problem because you're a cause of quite real ones.

[Superflow]

Interesting development that this is now law.

Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.

Time will tell.

[Mr Penguin]

The Rwanda policy is a complete waste of money but today brings another reminder of why there needs to be a deterrent on crossing the channel illegally https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/five-migrants-f...

[Biggy Stardust]

Mr Penguin said:

The Rwanda policy is a complete waste of money but today brings another reminder of why there needs to be a deterrent on crossing the channel illegally https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/five-migrants-f...

If risk of death doesn't deter them then what do you think will?

[anonymous-user]

Nothing will. That is the reality. Accept it or not.

[Rivenink]

So have the Tories announced they've awarded a lucrative contract to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda to a Tory Donor who doesn't have any planes?

[Mr Penguin]

Biggy Stardust said:

If risk of death doesn't deter them then what do you think will?

Guaranteed being made to live in Sunderland

[s1962a]

Rivenink said:

So have the Tories announced they've awarded a lucrative contract to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda to a Tory Donor who doesn't have any planes?

It'll cost £1.8m per person to fly them out (for the first 300), so a good payday for the "chums" that get selected to run the scheme.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rw...

[Rufus Stone]

Superflow said:

Interesting development that this is now law.

Have to say as a traditional conservative voter not planning on voting if they can fill up planes to Rwanda with economic migrants clutching their iPhones and also bring in the benefits time cap for the scroungers then they may swing me back to ticking their box.

Time will tell.

Good God. The depths to which Tory supporters have fallen.

[mwstewart]

I wonder how many will be back on the next boat.

[robinessex]

s1962a said:

Rivenink said:

So have the Tories announced they've awarded a lucrative contract to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda to a Tory Donor who doesn't have any planes?

It'll cost £1.8m per person to fly them out (for the first 300), so a good payday for the "chums" that get selected to run the scheme.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rw...

36,704 illegal immigrants entered the UK in 2023, thus at £1.8 million per immigrant, if we'd sent them all to Rowada, the total cost to UK TAXPAYERS WOULD'VE BEEN £36 billion pounds.

[rscott]

s1962a said:

Rivenink said:

So have the Tories announced they've awarded a lucrative contract to fly asylum seekers to Rwanda to a Tory Donor who doesn't have any planes?

It'll cost £1.8m per person to fly them out (for the first 300), so a good payday for the "chums" that get selected to run the scheme.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rw...

We have around 50,000 people who have arrived since the law preventing them from applying for asylum was introduced. The options for them are either to send to Rwanda or keep paying to keep them in hotels ..

[Mr Penguin]

£1.8 million per person assumes only 300 go (one or two full planes), if the policy takes off then that cost will reduce.

[ATG]

PRTVR said:

President Merkin said:

PRTVR said:

It was a civil question to the language you used because I struggle to see why they are desperate, they are safe in France, desperate for a hotel room and a new mobile phone ?

I know you struggle, Your own language in the quoted post proves it. I felt bad for describing you as ignorant, then you said safe France, mobile phones, hotel rooms & proved it. So like I said, you could go away & read up on the complex & varied reasons why people choose to come here over somewhere else or alternativey trot out the lazy tropes above. You always have a choice.

So you think anyone who wants to come to the UK should be allowed ?

And your riposte is a transparent non sequitur. Well done.

[rscott]

valiant said:

bhstewie said:

£500M so far isn't it?

Wonder what the next excuse will be.

Apparently they’ve also found thousands of hours worth of court time, hundreds of judges to sit in these cases and other legal staff to administer it.

Must be comforting to those waiting for justice for sometimes over a year because of cuts to the justice system that resources can be found when it’s expedient for political aims…

I'm sure the women wating on average 5 years for rape cases to come to trial will understand too...

[ATG]

reddiesel said:

272BHP said:

You and people who think like you really are part of the problem.

I 100% agree with that summation .

Proving something, but not what you think.