Chris Huhne... going soon?
Discussion
Soovy said:
Because the evidence takes a long time to gather in a PTCOJ case.
This case has been going on for 18 months already. Now it won't get heard until next January at the earliest.Does it not seem a bit odd to you? Is it normal that the reasons for the delays are withheld from the public? Is it normal that a judge gets arrested and a gagging order is slapped on that too?
Don
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Slaav said:
Tried a Google search to see if anywhere else updated and noticed that the page had been withdrawn. Don't tell me that they can't even report what they did????
FFS - isn't there a famous quote that says 'more importantly Justice must be SEEN to be done!'
There's an idea! Fit a webcam in his prison cell.FFS - isn't there a famous quote that says 'more importantly Justice must be SEEN to be done!'
Don
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Derek Smith said:
The test for whether a person should go to jail or not should be the likelihood of reoffending. If we ignored the view of punishment and instead used jail as a means of defending the population them we'd live in a much more crime free country. If a burglar can escape jail after a dozen offences then the whole justice system is a waste of space.
If (and it is a big if given the spending of briefs) Huhne is found guilty then he would, I would say, be the perfect person to be tagged or some such penalty. He's unlikely to do it again. Leave his slot inside for a burglar who, up until now, would be told by his defence brief that despite being given a suspended sentence last time, there was no need to take a bag of clothes with him to court as he won't be staying.
Jail should be for 'professional' criminals (although normally they are pathetically amateur) and not as a means of punishment.
We are shutting half a dozen jails to save money. This means shorter sentences and so we don't want the place cluttered with those who will not reoffend.
So ends the reformation of the justice system a la Derek.
You're not getting my vote, Derek!If (and it is a big if given the spending of briefs) Huhne is found guilty then he would, I would say, be the perfect person to be tagged or some such penalty. He's unlikely to do it again. Leave his slot inside for a burglar who, up until now, would be told by his defence brief that despite being given a suspended sentence last time, there was no need to take a bag of clothes with him to court as he won't be staying.
Jail should be for 'professional' criminals (although normally they are pathetically amateur) and not as a means of punishment.
We are shutting half a dozen jails to save money. This means shorter sentences and so we don't want the place cluttered with those who will not reoffend.
So ends the reformation of the justice system a la Derek.
Prison sentences should also serve as a deterrent.
If a high profile politician were to get a minimum of 6 months, then people would think twice before following his example.
Don
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Gene Vincent said:
What else is there or can there be?
We don't know what the police have discovered. However, we do know that on the evening that the speeding offence took place, Vicky Pryce was giving a speech in London.We have been told that Huhne sent his kids some incriminating text messages, and the police have these messages.
We have also heard that Ms Pryce spoke about the matter to Judge Briscoe. It will be interesting to see if Judge Briscoe is called to give evidence. I suspect that she would make a very compelling witness.
Don
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Mill Wheel said:
Judge Briscoe stated publicly that she advised Pryce against accepting the points, which makes Pryce's spousal coercion defence weaker!
AIUI, she has to show that she was in fear for the coercion defence to fly.
I was thinking about the effect on Huhne's defence.AIUI, she has to show that she was in fear for the coercion defence to fly.
The effect on Pryce's defence could be either way.
Don
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anonymous said:
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You are the only person that has said that PCOJ is a special case.Lots of people are trying to explain that it isn't special. It is an offence in its own right.
If you only want to debate the PCOJ issue, then why don't you start a thread in SP&L about the subject. There are plenty of lawyers in there that you can disagree with.
Don
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mybrainhurts said:
Oh, yes.
Wallowing in the delight of participating in the celebration of this slimy character's angst really does make life worth living...
Nothing comes near, save for a similar scenario involving Blair, Brown or any one of their cohorts.
The smell of blood in the air is something to be savoured, even if he gets off, whereupon we can at least rest assured he's been put through the sweat mill, resigned his destructive job and endured many a sleepless night.
The outcome will be sublime, one way or the other, it's just a matter of degree.
Only another week to enjoy, mes braves, so everything forward and trust in the lord...
...Amen.Wallowing in the delight of participating in the celebration of this slimy character's angst really does make life worth living...
Nothing comes near, save for a similar scenario involving Blair, Brown or any one of their cohorts.
The smell of blood in the air is something to be savoured, even if he gets off, whereupon we can at least rest assured he's been put through the sweat mill, resigned his destructive job and endured many a sleepless night.
The outcome will be sublime, one way or the other, it's just a matter of degree.
Only another week to enjoy, mes braves, so everything forward and trust in the lord...
Don
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anonymous said:
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You seem to be deliberately obtuse.Many, many people have tried to explain to you that this case is NOT about lying about speeding. This case is about lying to the court.
Our system of justice cannot work if people are at liberty to lie in court. Therefore, there are strong penalties in place.
Telling lies is wrong. Telling lies in court is very wrong.
Don
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mybrainhurts said:
A judge once lied in an affidavit, in her capacity as a solicitor, in order to freeze my bank account.
I often wonder how far I'd have got if I made a complaint. Not far, I reckon.
As I said earlier, I think that Judge Briscoe will be a very convincing witness.I often wonder how far I'd have got if I made a complaint. Not far, I reckon.
I'm feeling quietly confident.
Don
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Mill Wheel said:
It is just a thought, but if for any reason she changed her story since her original statement, it might explain the suspension and the pre-trial maneuvering with Huhne that has taken place.
She was suspended because she was made aware of a crime and did not report it.I believe that judges have a duty to report any crime that comes to their attention.
It would be very stupid to change her story - and she is not a stupid woman.
Monday should be interesting, especially if Guido is giving an on-line commentary straight from the courtroom.
Don
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Guido has extended his sympathies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZSqQXRxYW4&fe...
Must resist the urge to laugh...
Don
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Must resist the urge to laugh...
Don
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
eastleigh echo said:
Mr Justice Sweeney tells Huhne it is "essential" he turns up to his sentencing, the date for which has yet to be set.
"You should be under no illusions whatsoever as to the sentence you are likely to receive," he tells the former energy secretary, the man who twice made bids to become the Liberal Democrat leader.
Huhne is currently in a court preparation room in discussions with his legal team.
10:51am
With the case adjourned, stunned reporters from every publication under the sun are still in disbelief at the unfolding drama.
"You should be under no illusions whatsoever as to the sentence you are likely to receive," he tells the former energy secretary, the man who twice made bids to become the Liberal Democrat leader.
Huhne is currently in a court preparation room in discussions with his legal team.
10:51am
With the case adjourned, stunned reporters from every publication under the sun are still in disbelief at the unfolding drama.
Don
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