What's Italian for 'kipper? Anti-migrant stunt goes awry.
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Guam said:
Breadvan72 said:
Guam said:
Wow what are you smoking?
Where did I mention Cameron (that was you), do they allow strange substances in the Inns of court now?
I was referring to the Bulgarian Socialists part of Labours S And D grouping, damn I hope the counsel I am meeting with on Friday has a better attention span than you (or I might be in for an expensive period of time).
Top tip: Try to remember your own stuff. You were so busy hugging yourself and slapping yourself on the back that you forgot your simply hilarious show stopper gag about only leftists changing. It is to that that I was referring. The demands of the syllabus are not high, although I appreciate that for some they will always be a struggle, but try at least to aim for internal consistency. Where did I mention Cameron (that was you), do they allow strange substances in the Inns of court now?
I was referring to the Bulgarian Socialists part of Labours S And D grouping, damn I hope the counsel I am meeting with on Friday has a better attention span than you (or I might be in for an expensive period of time).
Damn I hope my guy is better at shaping an argument than you appear to be.
For a guy who according to his fanclub is a legend in these here parts, I would suggest its only in your lunchtime!
Let me spell it out for you in extra big colouring in. You talked of some old Commies, in bed with Labour, who have changed their spots. Lega Nord haven't changed theirs. UKIP is still in bed with them. Is it really that hard to see that one is green with a stalk and the other has dimpled skin and squirty juice?
PRTVR said:
Breadvan72 said:
s2art said:
I think you will find that history isnt a bus, and that we, collectively, have influence on the path history takes. There is no historical inevitability about the EU superstate, on the contrary it looks like a good thing to avoid.
I said a bus, not a train. The bus can be steered and does not run on rails. There is no historical inevitability, but the bus doesn't wait, and can't be parked in 1953, never to move forward (unless you want it to be a broken down old bus with badgers living in the engine compartment).Your comment reminds me that many here seem to have black and white computer screens (maybe they come from 1953) and/or screens which display everything in binary (as opposed to using binary). Saying that stuff is not all about polar opposites - yes, no, on, off - and that you are allowed to have opinions that are bespoken - and not bought in a package off the shelf - seems pretty trite, but seems to be a novel thought here, sometimes. For example, oppose UKIP and you are deemed to be unblinkingly pro EU, but that does not follow.
Guam said:
Whilst I may need crayon you clearly need braille (or have less Brandy when lunching clients) unless you know the Bulgars PERSONALLY you are not qualified to make that statement, he has no expertise mlud. Being a former Marxist with a hard core family background and former liberal activist I know how hard it is to break the "faith"
More b
ks just like your initial post, the point is none of the groupings are free from controversy, whatever side of the political spectrum they come from.
You however seem utterly incapable of divining that.
Have you thought about trying out for being a Judge, it seems most of them have to be pretty clueless to qualify and need to be right up themselves.
It would appear you are admirably qualified.
BTW I am not suggesting LN have changed, may change, or are capable of change.
However I wont slur the labour MEP's by suggesting that they are closet Marxists because some of their group may be.
Feel free to return with yet more nonsense based around transport wildlife or imaginary fascists under the bed!
Feeling a bit tense, sweetie? Did the howwid man on the internet say nasty things about your Idol and upset you? Run out of arguments, so have to say howwid things about the howwid man? Bless.More b
ks just like your initial post, the point is none of the groupings are free from controversy, whatever side of the political spectrum they come from.You however seem utterly incapable of divining that.
Have you thought about trying out for being a Judge, it seems most of them have to be pretty clueless to qualify and need to be right up themselves.
It would appear you are admirably qualified.
BTW I am not suggesting LN have changed, may change, or are capable of change.
However I wont slur the labour MEP's by suggesting that they are closet Marxists because some of their group may be.
Feel free to return with yet more nonsense based around transport wildlife or imaginary fascists under the bed!
PRTVR said:
WinstonWolf said:
Don't 'diss BV's wig 
they could use them for keeping badgers in.PRTVR said:
But you are just as guilty, as are a lot of posters on here,your automatically associating UKIP with racism, people pigeon hole other poster, from the statement they make, there is no way to understand fully what what a person belive's ,this is one of the failing of this type of Forum, from what you post you do not like UKIP, their main stance is to remove the UK from the EU, so would it not be logical to presume that you were pro EU?
Racism was introduced into the thread by paranoid UKIP supporters, not by me. The original post shows that some nutjobs who may or may not be supporters of the Lega Nord did something absurd and funny. In an easy test for a predictable response, I tacked on a (true) observation that UKIP shacks up with the Lega Nord. Nothing was said about racism, but UKIP supporters take any criticism as an accusation of racism. They may perhaps trail their coats by doing this, but they miss the point that some of us think that UKIP are absurd not because they are racist but because they are absurd. Not having the wit to realise that teaming up with people like the Lega Nord is an absurd thing to do if you want to bang on about democracy is a good indication of the absurdity of UKIP.Re Farage and Basingtoke, 25,000 votes is too big a hill to climb, I think. Also, the UKIP record on expenses is not exactly spotless, with at least one of them jailed and others under the pay it back cosh, as Jon Snow just reminded Nige. Nige got cross.
steveT350C said:
Well done Mr Lawyer. You represent your profession well.
I will pick up on some of your slight-of-hand lies in a while, but while you are here, do you agree that UKIP are predominantly a 1 policy Party?
I think that the word you may be groping for is "sleight". I wonder why my job makes a difference to you? This is a political discussion forum on a car website. Why does someone's job matter? Sometimes, people can comment on a subject by reference to something they know from their job (doctors on homeopathy, police officers on police issues, lawyers on stuff like how much law in the UK is EU law, etc), but when it comes to politics, what has a person's job got to do with it? I will pick up on some of your slight-of-hand lies in a while, but while you are here, do you agree that UKIP are predominantly a 1 policy Party?
UKIP puts forward all sorts of policies, as far as I know, but most of them don't appear to have been thought through very carefully.
steveT350C said:
Breadvan72 said:
steveT350C said:
You are never too old to smile. 
True, but I said smilies, not smiles. If you can't rely on written words alone to convey meaning in a written medium, you are giving up, in my view. I allow myself about two smilies a year, or something like that. Not defensive, as there is no need to defend unless attacked, and you appear to be armed with some slightly sharpened pieces of fruit as at Umpopo Gorge. I'm genuinely curious why people think someone's job matters in a political debate.
As for accusing another poster of lying, you might want to revise the PH rules that you signed up to.
As for accusing another poster of lying, you might want to revise the PH rules that you signed up to.
steveT350C said:
Breadvan72 said:
steveT350C said:
You had to chase?
Still chasing! Keeps you fit.UKIP policy quiz, already answered, but anyway I'm here to chat, not play twenty questions.
I call that a Plan.
PS: Criticise UKIP on PH and you arouse great and mighty ire. This shows, at least, that UKIP supporters (who may take some reinforcement from the fact that they are numerous and concentrated here, although rather more spread out in the real world) are passionate. It is hard to be passionate about Tories, Labour, or LibDems. It's more a case of choose which one is least bad. It seems to me a touch sad, however, to be so passionate about something that is so shonky (unless it's an old car, maybe).
PS: Criticise UKIP on PH and you arouse great and mighty ire. This shows, at least, that UKIP supporters (who may take some reinforcement from the fact that they are numerous and concentrated here, although rather more spread out in the real world) are passionate. It is hard to be passionate about Tories, Labour, or LibDems. It's more a case of choose which one is least bad. It seems to me a touch sad, however, to be so passionate about something that is so shonky (unless it's an old car, maybe).
Most politicians are not lawyers. Please look up the figures, rather than repeating a mantra. There are (from fallible memory) about 86 or so lawyers out of 650 MPs, and only one or two, again from fallible memory, in the Cabinet. If 86 out of 650 is most, and two or three in the Cabinet is most, my maths must be worse than I thought.
Someone else said that I was lying (he used a posh word for it, but that is what the word means) because I was relying on the body of English law before EU membership. I wasn't. The issue as I understand it is how much since we joined. Is it instead how much since some arbitrary later date? What is currently? When did currently start? Even if you say currently the figure is still not 70%. If it was, I would notice at work, because I have to deal with new stuff as well as old stuff.
There is no spin here. I am merely observing that most of the stuff I have to tangle with at work ain't Euro stuff. My practice is in the sectors where lots of Euro stuff is to be found, and there is too much of it in some fields, but still my working life isn't dominated by Euro stuff. I have colleagues who do almost non stop Euro stuff, but that no more makes the UKIP point than the small town solicitor who would not know what a Directive was if it kissed his wife would make the point that EU law has no impact.
The debate about how much from where is not very informative in any event, as explained above and by reputable non PH analysts of the subject, as not all laws weigh the same.
Someone else said that I was lying (he used a posh word for it, but that is what the word means) because I was relying on the body of English law before EU membership. I wasn't. The issue as I understand it is how much since we joined. Is it instead how much since some arbitrary later date? What is currently? When did currently start? Even if you say currently the figure is still not 70%. If it was, I would notice at work, because I have to deal with new stuff as well as old stuff.
There is no spin here. I am merely observing that most of the stuff I have to tangle with at work ain't Euro stuff. My practice is in the sectors where lots of Euro stuff is to be found, and there is too much of it in some fields, but still my working life isn't dominated by Euro stuff. I have colleagues who do almost non stop Euro stuff, but that no more makes the UKIP point than the small town solicitor who would not know what a Directive was if it kissed his wife would make the point that EU law has no impact.
The debate about how much from where is not very informative in any event, as explained above and by reputable non PH analysts of the subject, as not all laws weigh the same.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 9th April 21:45
steveT350C said:
... what you said is insinuating that UKIP are saying something that they are not, pisses me off somewhat!
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I insinuate nothing, I say in plain terms that Farage lies on this issue, just as he lies on the membership fee. He cannot claim not to know the real data. so he's not just mistaken. I ask again: what does "currently" mean? Clegg fibbed too, FWIW....
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