"inadvertant" book burning
Discussion
TheHeretic said:
Jimbeaux said:
I agree somewhat; however, I believe much of what you describe is tribal/cultural as much as religion.
I've past caring, to be honest. Their religion is used to justify their tribal, fked up ways. If they want that, have at it. Leave them to it, and let them live in the squalor that their beliefs will bring them.Jimbeaux said:
Comparing him or anyone else here to those idiots is like pointing to the Queen Mary and an SUV and proclaiming that they both get bad mileage.
I agree... differing levels of intolerance. You know he wanted to put a ban on gay marriage in the constitution. Now as you like your state laws, and not federal ones, even you, I think, can see that as above and beyond intolerance.TheHeretic said:
Jimbeaux said:
Comparing him or anyone else here to those idiots is like pointing to the Queen Mary and an SUV and proclaiming that they both get bad mileage.
I agree... differing levels of intolerance. You know he wanted to put a ban on gay marriage in the constitution. Now as you like your state laws, and not federal ones, even you, I think, can see that as above and beyond intolerance.thinfourth2 said:
It just needs a small change in procedures to a procedure more acceptable to the locals
Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner
If you build a man a fire, he will be warm through the night.Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner
If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
mko9 said:
thinfourth2 said:
It just needs a small change in procedures to a procedure more acceptable to the locals
Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner
If you build a man a fire, he will be warm through the night.Old procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass message then set fire to the book
Thinfourth procedure
Find prisoner using book to pass messages then set fire to prisoner
If you set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Raja said:
I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave.
The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out.
Victor McDade said:
The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out.
Many potential terrorist attacks have been caused by our presence. Where do we draw the line? I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out.
Raja said:
I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave.
Geographical presence aside we are still there because although AQ skipped across the border to Pakistan a long time ago, the angry bees are still flying around. Who is actually firing those bees off is a bit muddied as the locals have been fighting Johnny Foreigner since day dot. A bit hard to tell who is a local defending his patch and a jihad freedom fighter from another country. They all look the same when blown up.Iraq I feel was more rich old guys serving their own purposes (George W finishing the job his old man started and Dick Cheney - Halliburton for example) but the ghan is a whole other mess. I know a little of the people there and they will never change. They are more likely to kill to stop their only goat from being stolen by the next village, than for the frivolous western issues such as education for women and democracy.
We dont need to understand them but we need to admit that they are simply different and leave them to it. Throwing good money after bad it is. Money that nobody has.
Victor McDade said:
Raja said:
I understand that we went in to Afghanistan to go after AQ. What i don't understand is why we stayed there. As for propping up the regime there now. We should just leave.
The argument is that many potential terror attacks on American, British and other Western cities have been foiled due to our presence in Afghanistan and Pakistan.I agree though that we should pull out now. Leave a CIA/MI6 presence but get the troops out.
speedy_thrills said:
Could Afghanistan "government" support it's own military needs without direct foreign military assistance or would it be a Vietnam situation of gradual collapse? Is there the opportunity for a partition in Afghanistan between the Taliban controlled area and the rest of Afghanistan?
No chance at all. The Taliban are unified partly by their fundamentalist religion and partly by shared Tribal identity (most of them are Pathans). If there was one single uniting factor amongst the opposition they would have a chance (especially with ISAF support. There isn't, and the problem with Pathans is they can be very committed.Allahu akbar, apparently. Apparently God sits up in his sky bit, looking down, and seemingly he is quite happy his little band of fked up, ignorant, squallorific tribes people are doing this sort of thing, killing, and rioting, and apparently, he doesn't mind at all. In fact, as far as I can see, they seem to be doing Gods will. Religion... So stupid, even the dumb can join in.
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TheHeretic said:
Allahu akbar, apparently. Apparently God sits up in his sky bit, looking down, and seemingly he is quite happy his little band of fked up, ignorant, squallorific tribes people are doing this sort of thing, killing, and rioting, and apparently, he doesn't mind at all. In fact, as far as I can see, they seem to be doing Gods will. Religion... So stupid, even the dumb can join in.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1330621949
Egypt, then Libya and now Syria. Will the idiot world governments ever learn not to help these degenerate savages whose only aim is to destroy civilisation?http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=54c_1330621949
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