Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
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After Di Caprio, another huge brain throws its weight behind the MMGW campaign. Turbobloke, he's looking at you, sunshine. 
http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2014/09/paul-mccar...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4P6htAGDE
http://www.vintagevinylnews.com/2014/09/paul-mccar...
Article said:
Paul McCartney Campaigns For the Meat Free Monday Climate Pledge
Last week the McCartney family and Rt Hon Gregory Barker MP, former Minister of State for Energy and Climate Change and now Climate Advisor to David Cameron, launched an online campaign to encourage people to skip meat one day a week in order to reduce their carbon footprint and help tackle climate change.
Here's his heartfelt and moving message to the World. It brought a tear to my eye. It really did.Last week the McCartney family and Rt Hon Gregory Barker MP, former Minister of State for Energy and Climate Change and now Climate Advisor to David Cameron, launched an online campaign to encourage people to skip meat one day a week in order to reduce their carbon footprint and help tackle climate change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4P6htAGDE
Pointman's highlights said:
“Was “hide the decline” referring to a temperature proxy or your reputation?”
“What is greater, temp increase in the last 15 years or the number of amicus briefs filed on your behalf in Mann v Steyn?”
“Were you happy with the fake book reviews you had Skeptical Science Cook up for you?”
“If Global Warming means both warmer and colder weather simultaneously, how do you know when it’s fixed?”
“How many hrs a day on average wud u spend fastidiously blocking people on Twitter”
“Although you’re a young scientist, what *so far* do you regard as your greatest contribution to our ignorance about nature?”
“Don’t think of them as questions from trolls, think of them as questions you may have to answer under oath”
“Why is only the 3% of CO2 that’s human-emitted catastrophically dangerous, while the 97% that’s emitted naturally isn’t?”
“What is greater, temp increase in the last 15 years or the number of amicus briefs filed on your behalf in Mann v Steyn?”
“Were you happy with the fake book reviews you had Skeptical Science Cook up for you?”
“If Global Warming means both warmer and colder weather simultaneously, how do you know when it’s fixed?”
“How many hrs a day on average wud u spend fastidiously blocking people on Twitter”
“Although you’re a young scientist, what *so far* do you regard as your greatest contribution to our ignorance about nature?”
“Don’t think of them as questions from trolls, think of them as questions you may have to answer under oath”
“Why is only the 3% of CO2 that’s human-emitted catastrophically dangerous, while the 97% that’s emitted naturally isn’t?”
turbobloke said:
chris watton said:
jshell said:
don4l said:
I see that Michael Mann held an "Ask Doctor Mann" event live on twitter yesterday. I fear that it didn't go entirely to plan.
See the fun here https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskDrMann?src=hash
Hilarious! See the fun here https://twitter.com/hashtag/AskDrMann?src=hash
If he (Mann) doesn't get it after those tweets, then I fear he never will.....
Royal Society In Trouble Over Paper With False Extinction Claim
It was presented as shocking evidence of the damage being done by climate change: a species driven to extinction because of a decline in rainfall in its only habitat. Now the “rediscovery” of a species of snail is prompting questions about the role played by the Royal Society, Britain’s most prestigious scientific institution, in raising false alarm over the impact of climate change. The Royal Society journal refused to publish a rebuttal, saying it had been “rejected following full peer review”. The journal sent Mr Hambler the reviews of the rebuttal by two anonymous academic referees, who had rejected the criticisms made of Mr Gerlach’s paper. However, the Royal Society admitted this week, after questions from The Times, that the referees who had rejected the rebuttal were the same referees who had approved Mr Gerlach’s paper for publication. The society said it had since changed its policy on reviewing rebuttals.
Ben Webster, The Times, 20 September 2014
Former Obama Science Official Confirms Climate Science Is Not Settled
The idea that “climate science is settled” runs through today’s popular and policy discussions. Unfortunately, that claim is misguided. It has not only distorted our public and policy debates on issues related to energy, greenhouse gas emissions and the environment. But it also has inhibited the scientific and policy discussions that we need to have about our climate future.
Steven E Koonin, The Wall Street Journal, 20 September 2014
It was presented as shocking evidence of the damage being done by climate change: a species driven to extinction because of a decline in rainfall in its only habitat. Now the “rediscovery” of a species of snail is prompting questions about the role played by the Royal Society, Britain’s most prestigious scientific institution, in raising false alarm over the impact of climate change. The Royal Society journal refused to publish a rebuttal, saying it had been “rejected following full peer review”. The journal sent Mr Hambler the reviews of the rebuttal by two anonymous academic referees, who had rejected the criticisms made of Mr Gerlach’s paper. However, the Royal Society admitted this week, after questions from The Times, that the referees who had rejected the rebuttal were the same referees who had approved Mr Gerlach’s paper for publication. The society said it had since changed its policy on reviewing rebuttals.
Ben Webster, The Times, 20 September 2014
Former Obama Science Official Confirms Climate Science Is Not Settled
The idea that “climate science is settled” runs through today’s popular and policy discussions. Unfortunately, that claim is misguided. It has not only distorted our public and policy debates on issues related to energy, greenhouse gas emissions and the environment. But it also has inhibited the scientific and policy discussions that we need to have about our climate future.
Steven E Koonin, The Wall Street Journal, 20 September 2014
chris watton said:
It will be good for them to cross examine him on oath, then if he lies, move to have him jailed for perjury................MrsMiggins said:
Emma Thompson is on Andrew Marr right now talking about arctic ice and the conclusive evidence of man made climate change in the last IPCC report.
I turned over before I started shouting at the TV like a crazy person.
Wise move.I turned over before I started shouting at the TV like a crazy person.
Apparently an FE college has jointly organised a climate march through Stroud today. "That'll learn 'em."
This coordinated outpouring of faith is (obviously) timed to raise awareness of the climate beanfeast in New York that several world leaders by way of their considered absence judge to be irrelevant.
It looks like The Royal Society is getting itself into a spot of bother.
In 2007 they published a peer reviewed paper that claimed that man made climate change had caused the extinction of a rare snail.
The snail has recently been found alive and well.
The problem is that the RS are, unbelievably, refusing to withdraw the original paper.
The story doesn't stop there. Shortly after the original paper was published, a rebuttal was submitted to the RS by the world expert on this rare snail. The rebuttal was rejected after the RS had it reviewed by the same people who had reviewed the original paper!!!
They are still refusing to publish the rebuttal.
It is an incredibly sad state of affairs when the RS promotes the AGW religion above reality.
"Nullius in Verba"!
Pah...
More here...
In 2007 they published a peer reviewed paper that claimed that man made climate change had caused the extinction of a rare snail.
The snail has recently been found alive and well.
The problem is that the RS are, unbelievably, refusing to withdraw the original paper.
The story doesn't stop there. Shortly after the original paper was published, a rebuttal was submitted to the RS by the world expert on this rare snail. The rebuttal was rejected after the RS had it reviewed by the same people who had reviewed the original paper!!!
They are still refusing to publish the rebuttal.
It is an incredibly sad state of affairs when the RS promotes the AGW religion above reality.
"Nullius in Verba"!
Pah...
More here...
Germany-based European Institute for Climate and Energy (EIKE) here brings up a television report on the disappointing returns from wind parks, recently appearing on SWR South German public television.
The days of the media not questioning green energy are over.
- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.U2tuBdtd.dpuf
about bloody time too.
The days of the media not questioning green energy are over.
- See more at: http://notrickszone.com/#sthash.U2tuBdtd.dpuf
about bloody time too.
don4l said:
It looks like The Royal Society is getting itself into a spot of bother.
In 2007 they published a peer reviewed paper that claimed that man made climate change had caused the extinction of a rare snail.
The snail has recently been found alive and well.
The problem is that the RS are, unbelievably, refusing to withdraw the original paper.
The story doesn't stop there. Shortly after the original paper was published, a rebuttal was submitted to the RS by the world expert on this rare snail. The rebuttal was rejected after the RS had it reviewed by the same people who had reviewed the original paper!!!
They are still refusing to publish the rebuttal.
It is an incredibly sad state of affairs when the RS promotes the AGW religion above reality.
"Nullius in Verba"!
Pah...
More here...
I'm surprised they can find 4 people who are knowledgeable enough to have any realistic chance of having a debate, write papers, peer review and write a rebuttal in such a specific subject area.In 2007 they published a peer reviewed paper that claimed that man made climate change had caused the extinction of a rare snail.
The snail has recently been found alive and well.
The problem is that the RS are, unbelievably, refusing to withdraw the original paper.
The story doesn't stop there. Shortly after the original paper was published, a rebuttal was submitted to the RS by the world expert on this rare snail. The rebuttal was rejected after the RS had it reviewed by the same people who had reviewed the original paper!!!
They are still refusing to publish the rebuttal.
It is an incredibly sad state of affairs when the RS promotes the AGW religion above reality.
"Nullius in Verba"!
Pah...
More here...
The problem for us is that the components of AGW/CC/Luvvies "Doing something" science are pretty much just as esoteric and thinly populated. Which is how they very much wish to keep it. Much easier to command and control that way.
Anyway, nice to read that Banksey Luna has appointed a top notch Pious driving scientist from Hollywood to speak for the planet. I assume he only did it on the promise of another loan of that darned great super-yacht thing he had the use of at the World Cup in Brazil. Funded by Oil Money no doubt.
Channel 4 news tonight had flown one of its reporters across the Atlantic just to tell us all that Hurricane Sandy was without a doubt the result of CO2 induced global warming.All seemingly based on some strange reasoning that it hit the New York City financial district with the obvious implication that New York hadn't been hit by other serious Hurricanes throughout history long before then.Just like the theory obviously a case of 2 + 2 = 5.Reinforced by making sure that any inconvenient historical facts,showing that such events aren't linked to atmospheric CO2 levels,kept well away from the attention of their gullible audience.
Message from HRH the Prince of Wales at the launch of Climate Week at the U.N. secretary General's Climate Summit, New York, on 22nd September 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyoo9UKY4_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyoo9UKY4_s
Edited by gareth_r on Tuesday 23 September 11:54
gareth_r said:
Message from HRH the Prince of Wales at the launch of Climate Week at the U.N. secretary General's Climate Summit, new York, on 22nd September 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyoo9UKY4_s
Thanks for that, I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyoo9UKY4_s
It's priceless, HRH must think he's talking to his vegetables.
Doing something "before it's too late" is a recurring theme for Charles so the deadline is clearly a moving feast. According to him, back in July 2009, we had 96 months to save the planet, so all will be revealed by the end of June 2017 - not long to go now. There's not much hope of this blatherer shutting up even then.
Later that year in October 2009, Gordon Brown claimed we had no more than 50 days to save the planet. By that token we're either saved or doomed already.
It must be tricky being a small believer, deciding which big Believer to believe.
You really do not want to watch this video of McCartney's new "meat free Monday" song. I didn't. The idea, if you haven't yet heard, is that if we all eat less meat, then CO2 emissions will be reduced and the planet will be saved.
He's not sure what it's being saved from, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tPmyRIoUGQ
Here's the lyrics to this urgent call for action. Brings a tear to my eye.
MEAT FREE MONDAY
Meat Free Monday
It's a fun day
And it's happening all around the world
Think about the future
How the world would be
If we don't do something
We face ***
Think 'bout *** gases
Melting whole the ice
Ocean level's rising
Better not think twice
Think of too much livestock
Warming up the land
Gotta think of answers
Gotta have a plan
Meat Free Monday
It's a fun day
And it's happening all around the world...
(I particularly like the line, "Better not think twice". Rather sums things up.)
He's not sure what it's being saved from, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tPmyRIoUGQ
Here's the lyrics to this urgent call for action. Brings a tear to my eye.
MEAT FREE MONDAY
Meat Free Monday
It's a fun day
And it's happening all around the world
Think about the future
How the world would be
If we don't do something
We face ***
Think 'bout *** gases
Melting whole the ice
Ocean level's rising
Better not think twice
Think of too much livestock
Warming up the land
Gotta think of answers
Gotta have a plan
Meat Free Monday
It's a fun day
And it's happening all around the world...
(I particularly like the line, "Better not think twice". Rather sums things up.)
Edited by Blib on Tuesday 23 September 08:45
Seems like the Rockefeller fortune is about to diminish significantly;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29310475
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-29310475
Blib said:
Here's the lyrics to this urgent call for action. Brings a tear to my eye.
Good grief. I wonder what Lennon would have done?It's interesting that so many 'pop' lyrics read so badly but this is a classic of the genre. I've always been puzzled about how PM managed to retain any popularity and continue to make huge amounts of dosh in a post-Beatles world. Clearly it's a skill that completely parallels the needs of the AGW movement to influence an uncritical mass of Western self loathers.
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