Scottish Referendum / Independence - Vol 6

[Strocky]

Welshbeef said:

Given Stocky actually drives a V10 Viper (or used to) "no less" and went by the name of Vincterprick and Black swan. His refusal to even name the model of car he drives (on a car enthusiast website) has not once posted in anything but the Referendum or similar threads and only appeared during the build up to the vote stinks.

Cockroach

Delusional and paranoid a winning combination

Put up or shut up, the boards waiting

A simple apology when you sober up will suffice

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Delusional and paranoid a winning combination

You said it

Perfect description of you lot

[simoid]

Strocky said:

A simple apology when you sober up will suffice

[Welshbeef]

Strocky said:

Delusional and paranoid a winning combination

Put up or shut up, the boards waiting

A simple apology when you sober up will suffice

You've a number of questions to answer from me put up or shut up

Cockroach

[simoid]

Strocky said:

Why would I expect a Tory Unionist to put his fellow citizen over the altar of capitalism?

I'd have been more surprised if you actually criticised the likes of Sports Direct etc who use Zero Hour contracts as a mass recruitment tool and not for those who are happy to get a couple of hours here and there to suit their lifestyle

Do you agree with Vince Cable's proposed ban on employer exclusivity?

I'm never going to change your mind regarding exploitative zero hour contracts, so why waste both our time?

I care ever so much for my fellow citizens. That's why I voted to keep the United Kingdom together, to protect our society from imminent disaster. Unlike our present Scottish government and many voters, who couldn't give a hoot about society and just want to destroy and rebuild countries and economies.

I'm not sure you know what "my mind" is regarding zero hour contracts. I don't believe the contracts themselves are a problem - any employer:employee relationship can be exploitative, in fact, as links provided here have shown, zero hour contract workers can be more content than others.

What is your position on them? We should ban them all?

[simoid]

Strocky said:

Welshbeef said:

Given Stocky actually drives a V10 Viper (or used to) "no less" and went by the name of Vincterprick and Black swan. His refusal to even name the model of car he drives (on a car enthusiast website) has not once posted in anything but the Referendum or similar threads and only appeared during the build up to the vote stinks.

Cockroach

Delusional and paranoid a winning combination

Put up or shut up, the boards waiting

A simple apology when you sober up will suffice

You joined a motoring enthusiasts' website in November 2014, not to talk about cars and driving, but to discuss a referendum that didn't go your way in September? And with a bunch of Tory unionists with whom you think you disagree on pretty much everything, and whose mind you don't think you can change?

Unusual hobby. Up there with shouting at seagulls for sting on you.

[Welshbeef]

My uncle is on such a contract.

He retired from his formal job a number of years ago big pay off and gold plated pension. However he was 55 -60 at the time far too young to retire but he didn't want to work full time year round instead really likes the ability to take 6 months off if he chooses or 3 months back to back. He doesn't like our winter weather and finds summer heat overseas too much so more often than not he stays in highly discounted hotels in the canaries or further afield.

No doubt there is a % who are in the st position which the press and labour bang on about is the case for all but it simply isn't.

[simoid]

Welshbeef said:

My uncle is on such a contract.

He retired from his formal job a number of years ago big pay off and gold plated pension. However he was 55 -60 at the time far too young to retire but he didn't want to work full time year round instead really likes the ability to take 6 months off if he chooses or 3 months back to back. He doesn't like our winter weather and finds summer heat overseas too much so more often than not he stays in highly discounted hotels in the canaries or further afield.

No doubt there is a % who are in the st position which the press and labour bang on about is the case for all but it simply isn't.

But would these people be any better off if they were on a 12 hour contract or whatever? You're also tying one hand behind an employer's back if you force them to give a certain amount of hours per worker per week.

Consider just now: a bar with a couple of full time workers and a dozen zero hours contracts. Great flexibility for employer and employee. Some employees perhaps work other jobs or study, so like the ability to change hours to suit. They can't work x hours per week. Might the employer just let them go, if they have to pay them every week? Let's face it, you can basically terminate employment on a whim for anyone in hospitality as the vast majority only spend a short time in positions.

What we're left with is fewer people with jobs, employers with less flexible workforces...?

[McWigglebum4th]

simoid said:

I care ever so much for my fellow citizens. That's why I voted to keep the United Kingdom together, to protect our society from imminent disaster. Unlike our present Scottish government and many voters, who couldn't give a hoot about society and just want to destroy and rebuild countries and economies.

Actually wasn't someone posting on this very thread saying they welcomed the destruction of scottish jobs as it increased the YES vote

[Strocky]

Welshbeef said:

Strocky said:

Delusional and paranoid a winning combination

Put up or shut up, the boards waiting

A simple apology when you sober up will suffice

You've a number of questions to answer from me put up or shut up

Cockroach

Hark at Tony Montana , I've don't need to answer st to you Beefhead, I thought the paranoia of me being a multi was put to bed long ago on here, anyone with half a brain and whose read this thread since I joined and knows how to use google can easily work out my identity and my credentials

How I post or where I post on here is of no concern to you, so calm down before you give yourself a coronary, there's a good lad

Don't know what this poster Viper posted on here but they surely wound up the Unionists on here to a fine tunee

[bazza white]

I worked for maccy D's many years ago on a zero hour contract as a student and it was fine I had hours every week no issues. In fact the more skilled you got and the harder you worked the more you could wangle more and better hours.

I also used them with students in another retail company who were away at uni or home from uni in the holidays. It meant I could keep good people on the books. They were happier with this than having to come home to no job and spend a few weeks of their holidays searching for a job as they could start straight away.

Whilst it does get abused it also benefits a lot of people and companies when used correctly.a simple tweak to contracts would help, say no more than 5% of employed hours or 10% employees can be on zero hour contracts for example would do it rather than an outright ban.

[Strocky]

simoid said:

Strocky said:

Why would I expect a Tory Unionist to put his fellow citizen over the altar of capitalism?

I'd have been more surprised if you actually criticised the likes of Sports Direct etc who use Zero Hour contracts as a mass recruitment tool and not for those who are happy to get a couple of hours here and there to suit their lifestyle

Do you agree with Vince Cable's proposed ban on employer exclusivity?

I'm never going to change your mind regarding exploitative zero hour contracts, so why waste both our time?

I care ever so much for my fellow citizens. That's why I voted to keep the United Kingdom together, to protect our society from imminent disaster. Unlike our present Scottish government and many voters, who couldn't give a hoot about society and just want to destroy and rebuild countries and economies.

I'm not sure you know what "my mind" is regarding zero hour contracts. I don't believe the contracts themselves are a problem - any employer:employee relationship can be exploitative, in fact, as links provided here have shown, zero hour contract workers can be more content than others.

What is your position on them? We should ban them all?

Your links showed that every person on a Zero Hour contract is happy and not being exploited?

And answer the question, Do you agree with Vince Cable's proposed ban on employer exclusivity?

Edited by Strocky on Tuesday 14th April 11:22

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

Your links showed that every person on a Zero Hour contract is happy and not being exploited?

If they were banned then we would see more unemployed people in poverty


Which is a good thing isn't it?

[Strocky]

bazza white said:

I worked for maccy D's many years ago on a zero hour contract as a student and it was fine I had hours every week no issues. In fact the more skilled you got and the harder you worked the more you could wangle more and better hours.

I also used them with students in another retail company who were away at uni or home from uni in the holidays. It meant I could keep good people on the books. They were happier with this than having to come home to no job and spend a few weeks of their holidays searching for a job as they could start straight away.

Whilst it does get abused it also benefits a lot of people and companies when used correctly.a simple tweak to contracts would help, say no more than 5% of employed hours or 10% employees can be on zero hour contracts for example would do it rather than an outright ban.

That's a sensible look at the situation, no-one's arguing that they don't benefit certain people's situations and should be an option, but the exclusivity practice and wholesale use by large companies that don't give workers the choice should be banned IMO

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

Your links showed that every person on a Zero Hour contract is happy and not being exploited?

If they were banned then we would see more unemployed people in poverty


Which is a good thing isn't it?

I haven't asked for an outright ban though

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

That's a sensible look at the situation, no-one's arguing that they don't benefit certain people's situations and should be an option, but the exclusivity practice and wholesale use by large companies that don't give workers the choice should be banned IMO

Which is going through parliament just now

You nationalists idiots have fk ability to wait

Which is why the same DAY as being defeated by us quisling baby raping scum you were all screaming the vow had been broken


Less patience then a 4 year old wanting a sweet

[Strocky]

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

That's a sensible look at the situation, no-one's arguing that they don't benefit certain people's situations and should be an option, but the exclusivity practice and wholesale use by large companies that don't give workers the choice should be banned IMO

Which is going through parliament just now

You nationalists idiots have fk ability to wait

Which is why the same DAY as being defeated by us quisling baby raping scum you were all screaming the vow had been broken


Less patience then a 4 year old wanting a sweet

Oh really, the wholesale use is being banned?

http://www.personneltoday.com/hr/zero-hours-contra...

No date has been set for the introduction of the legislation.

• Awaits flurry of tantrums & tourettes as a retort

[spitsfire]

Strocky said:

Oh really, the wholesale use is being banned?

http://www.personneltoday.com/hr/zero-hours-contra...

No date has been set for the introduction of the legislation.

• Awaits flurry of tantrums & tourettes as a retort

You do realise there are no dates for introduction of any legislation at present because...... there's an election?

[McWigglebum4th]

Strocky said:

McWigglebum4th said:

Strocky said:

That's a sensible look at the situation, no-one's arguing that they don't benefit certain people's situations and should be an option, but the exclusivity practice and wholesale use by large companies that don't give workers the choice should be banned IMO

Which is going through parliament just now

You nationalists idiots have fk ability to wait

Which is why the same DAY as being defeated by us quisling baby raping scum you were all screaming the vow had been broken


Less patience then a 4 year old wanting a sweet

Oh really, the wholesale use is being banned?

http://www.personneltoday.com/hr/zero-hours-contra...

No date has been set for the introduction of the legislation.

• Awaits flurry of tantrums & tourettes as a retort

How quickly will legislation be brought in once you lot are running scotland?

Or will you not bother with all this bothersome voting

Will we just bring laws in the instant the McFuhrer utters them

[McWigglebum4th]

And i await your or any nationslist considered response in this thread


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


I have already called myself an english so you need not bother you can skip straight to the answer