The 'No to the EU' campaign

[Cobnapint]

brenflys777 said:

I agree that Turkey can't meet the criteria to join the EU:

Likes Fast Cars said:

Turkey has no chance of ever meeting the EU membership criteria so I wouldn't get too worried.

However, I am concerned about Turkish membership, because as you also said:

Likes Fast Cars said:

There is no true democracy in the EU, they don't even stick to their rules & regulations when it suits them!

And Greece managed to get in, don't forget.

[powerstroke]

Cobnapint said:

brenflys777 said:

I agree that Turkey can't meet the criteria to join the EU:

Likes Fast Cars said:

Turkey has no chance of ever meeting the EU membership criteria so I wouldn't get too worried.

However, I am concerned about Turkish membership, because as you also said:

Likes Fast Cars said:

There is no true democracy in the EU, they don't even stick to their rules & regulations when it suits them!

And Greece managed to get in, don't forget.

We will get what germany wants and at the moment they need to suck up to turkey to solve the immigration problem and the EU fks up then Reacts
Turkey will be let in, they don't think about the future as long as today looks ok
the EU mess rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ..... It is so depressing to think we might vote to stay in this corupt inefficient mess.....

[dandarez]

powerstroke said:

Cobnapint said:

brenflys777 said:

I agree that Turkey can't meet the criteria to join the EU:

Likes Fast Cars said:

Turkey has no chance of ever meeting the EU membership criteria so I wouldn't get too worried.

However, I am concerned about Turkish membership, because as you also said:

Likes Fast Cars said:

There is no true democracy in the EU, they don't even stick to their rules & regulations when it suits them!

And Greece managed to get in, don't forget.

We will get what germany wants and at the moment they need to suck up to turkey to solve the immigration problem and the EU fks up then Reacts
Turkey will be let in, they don't think about the future as long as today looks ok
the EU mess rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ..... It is so depressing to think we might vote to stay in this corupt inefficient mess.....

I like your reply, but I've done my version and added more words!

We will get what Germany wants, and at the moment they need to suck up to Turkey to solve the immigration problem that Merkel partially created, and the EU fks up then Reacts.
Turkey WILL be let in, of that there is no doubt, the only thing nobody outside the EU knows is the timeline - they don't think, nor care about the future - they care only about today and how they look and their income remains or increases and their lovely little cosy club continues ...end of.

The EU is now no more than a gigantic mess - it simply rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ...9 member states in 1975 with a vision everyone was blind to at the time, a little common market that would grow into a European Super State.

It is so depressing, but hardly surprising looking around at the numbers of unintelligent people today, to think we might vote to stay in this corrupt, inefficient, utter and total FUBB. And if you don't know what FUBB is, get a copy of Wishbone Ash's 'There's the Rub' LP, released in 1974 a few months before the last 1975 referendum.

[Sam All]

dandarez said:

I like your reply, but I've done my version and added more words!

We will get what Germany wants, and at the moment they need to suck up to Turkey to solve the immigration problem that Merkel partially created, and the EU fks up then Reacts.
Turkey WILL be let in, of that there is no doubt, the only thing nobody outside the EU knows is the timeline - they don't think, nor care about the future - they care only about today and how they look and their income remains or increases and their lovely little cosy club continues ...end of.

The EU is now no more than a gigantic mess - it simply rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ...9 member states in 1975 with a vision everyone was blind to at the time, a little common market that would grow into a European Super State.

It is so depressing, but hardly surprising looking around at the numbers of unintelligent people today, to think we might vote to stay in this corrupt, inefficient, utter and total FUBB. And if you don't know what FUBB is, get a copy of Wishbone Ash's 'There's the Rub' LP, released in 1974 a few months before the last 1975 referendum.

Agreed

Another fear over hope campaign by CMD.

If we risk nothing now, we risk hell of a lot more later. Others want us to stay for their convenience, not ours.

[dandarez]

OFFS! The fear factor is getting worse by the remainians.

Camoron, no less this time.

Front page headline of tomorrow's (Monday) Telegraph...

Cameron:
Leaving EU could bring ...WAR!!!!!


Arrghhh, omg! War? Jeesh, must vote REMAIN at all costs.
War?
Think of the children...
vote remain.

F. IDIOT!
He's just following the line of that fellow dick Juncker, who said the same last month.

edit
They inc Camoron must now be getting really desperate to toss fear like that about. Perhaps, as they will be getting all the insider info on voting percentages, things are better for 'out' than currently being touted?

OUT!

Edited by dandarez on Sunday 8th May 23:44

[Esseesse]

powerstroke said:

We will get what germany wants and at the moment they need to suck up to turkey to solve the immigration problem and the EU fks up then Reacts
Turkey will be let in, they don't think about the future as long as today looks ok
the EU mess rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ..... It is so depressing to think we might vote to stay in this corupt inefficient mess.....

Is Turkey & the pipeline from Qatar/Saudi also the answer to Europe's reliance on Russian energy? Turkey possibly holds more than the refugee card.

[dandarez]

Esseesse said:

powerstroke said:

We will get what germany wants and at the moment they need to suck up to turkey to solve the immigration problem and the EU fks up then Reacts
Turkey will be let in, they don't think about the future as long as today looks ok
the EU mess rolls along getting bigger and more out of control ..... It is so depressing to think we might vote to stay in this corupt inefficient mess.....

Is Turkey & the pipeline from Qatar/Saudi also the answer to Europe's reliance on Russian energy? Turkey possibly holds more than the refugee card.

I'd go further, I think Turkey now hold the whole deck of cards!

There's gold (gas) in them thar hills (deserts - pipeline).

[johnfm]

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

[Esseesse]

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

Also, if a decision to leave would cause war, why not tell us sooner?

[alfie2244]

Esseesse said:

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

Also, if a decision to leave would cause war, why not tell us sooner?

Desperation or what? Did he say who this war would be with?

[QuantumTokoloshi]

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

The real eye opener, is when lightly questioned, how absolutely paper thin the remain arguments are.

A 7 year old would take the "security" argument apart in 30 seconds, likewise the "immigration" issue. The economic argument is uncertain both ways. The geopolitical strategy of the EU, especially as regards Turkey, seems to have been made up in the back of a taxi, after a heavy night of drinking at the Oktoberfeest.

[Mr_B]

So not voting remain now means European war, economic doom, £4K per household worse off , house price crash , a greater security threat and don't forget those roaming charges would go back up too. Would the pro remain side of PH like to mention which they think is bullst, or just stay silent and look at your feet a bit trying not to answer.
Lets see what next week brings, as maybe the hot weather will mean a plague of locusts brought on my non EU membership and inability to deal with climate change.

Edited by Mr_B on Monday 9th May 09:52

[chow pan toon]

alfie2244 said:

Esseesse said:

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

Also, if a decision to leave would cause war, why not tell us sooner?

Desperation or what? Did he say who this war would be with?

They could add another box onto the referendum paper. I vote Belgium.

[FiF]

Listening to Robinson 'interview' Penny Mordaunt on R4 Today there weren't any new issues. More of the same, interrupt and talk over any points, and a war of job titles, despite the list of defence staff and former heads of security services who have stated that Brexit is positive or of no concern to Britain's security, according to Robinson they know nothing and it's heads of state who know better, blatant appeal to supposed authority.

[johnxjsc1985]

Mr_B said:

So not voting remain now means European war, economic doom, £4K per household worse off , house price crash , a greater security threat and don't forget those roaming charges would go back up too. Would the pro remain side of PH like to mention which they think is bullst, or just stay silent and look at your feet a bit trying not to answer.
Lets see what next week brings, as maybe the hot weather will mean a plague of locusts brought on my non EU membership and inability to do with climate change.

I think the leave side should just keep quiet, the remain team are doing a fantastic job of scaring people into vote leave. They protest far too much. I am still an undecided but the more scaremongering that goes on the more I am incline to vote leave.

[chow pan toon]

johnxjsc1985 said:

They protest far too much. I am still an undecided but the more scaremongering that goes on the more I am incline to vote leave.

Same here

[aeropilot]

alfie2244 said:

Esseesse said:

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

Also, if a decision to leave would cause war, why not tell us sooner?

Desperation or what? Did he say who this war would be with?

Given the pitiful state of most of the armed forces of the EU member states created by EU politics, and combined with their ability to not make a decision.....Call Me Dave is really stretching the boundaries of his credibility with this one (if the muppet has any credibility left that is)

[audidoody]

I'm not worried about war with Europe. We have the secret weapon of radar stations along the coast and the there are more Spitfires rolling out of the factories than ever before.

[alfie2244]

chow pan toon said:

alfie2244 said:

Esseesse said:

johnfm said:

Laughable.

If an decision to leave would cause war, why hold a referendum?

"We are a democracy" the politicians trot out in response to this.

Amusing hearing Tory MPs who were anti EU just months ago suddenly toeing the party line and delivering this bks on the BBC this morning.

Also, if a decision to leave would cause war, why not tell us sooner?

Desperation or what? Did he say who this war would be with?

They could add another box onto the referendum paper. I vote Belgium.

Perhaps we should launch a preemptive strike?









Only joking

[Sam All]

audidoody said:

I'm not worried about war with Europe. We have the secret weapon of radar stations along the coast and the there are more Spitfires rolling out of the factories than ever before.

Europeans have infiltrated our community - will they be for us or against us?