45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[pinchmeimdreamin]

Any news on the Bond ?

[Byker28i]

A busy couple of weeks for trump

His criminal trial starts today, more business fraud, we hear all about his adultery and illegal payoffs and fraudulent business records.

SCOTUS arguments on Fischer are Tuesday, this is where magamob member is tryign to claim the charges of obstruction of congress don't count.
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/04/jan-6-defendant...

NYAG hearing on trumps bond that wasn't a bond next Monday 22 Apri

SCOTUS arguments on trump immunity begin 25 April, about as long as they could delay in this session.

[Byker28i]

Rep. D'Esposito introduces resolution to strip expelled Members of floor privileges, access to "House document room" and parking, this after Santos went to the SOTU address.
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/17796533...

[Byker28i]

Apparently the GOP realised their claims that Biden was coming for their white goods didn't have any traction so they've dropped it and are planning a response copying what Biden has already done?

[Byker28i]

pinchmeimdreamin said:

Any news on the Bond ?

Nothing yet on asset seizures, although it would be funny if that happened whilst he was tied up in court on another business fraud trial...
I'm guessing nothing until next week, when the hearing is about it?

Lisa Rubin thinks we'll hear more about it today
https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1779680800859...


I do like the medical note as a response

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 15th April 06:57

[Byker28i]

Claims that trumps lawyers are even going to be trying to stop him having his press rants outside court
https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/1779645734876...

[Byker28i]

Another rally, yet more lies, claiming he's gagged and won't be allowed to talk. He can take the stand...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1779298156405989389

[Byker28i]

trump personally signed 9 checks to Michael Cohen during the first year of his presidency, all detailed in Manhattan DA’s statement of facts
And Madeleine Westerhout is called as a witness who was responsible for ensuring Cohen signed and sent them back to the Trump Org for payment
https://twitter.com/i/status/1778793290118181087

Along with other possible witnesses trump org. controller, Jeff McConney, & the accounts payable supervisor, Deborah Tarasoff

[Chimune]

Any decent sites to follow along with the theatrics today ?
No cameras in this one i believe.

[Bonefish Blues]

Byker28i said:

Claims that trumps lawyers are even going to be trying to stop him having his press rants outside court
https://twitter.com/KFaulders/status/1779645734876...

That would also be wise. He tells so many lies that he forgets them and doubles/trebles down.

[Byker28i]

Chimune said:

Any decent sites to follow along with the theatrics today ?
No cameras in this one i believe.

Lawfare, or maybe Anna Bower? I'm sure they'll be others reporting from the trial when they can
https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/

[mikeiow]

For those of you who don’t dive into Truth Social to berate the demented orange buffoon, as I do once or twice a day….
Here is the kwalitee of adverts you get there:


Utterly laughable

[Byker28i]

Someone was claiming trumps bible has the Bill of Rights included, but has deliberately left out the other Amendments assuring the freedom of slaves, women’s right to vote and the limitation of two terms for a president.


As always the internet have had their say... "Mr trump, Why is the tale of Lot and his daughters now 47 pages long?"

[Blackpuddin]

Byker28i said:

Chimune said:

Any decent sites to follow along with the theatrics today ?
No cameras in this one i believe.

Lawfare, or maybe Anna Bower? I'm sure they'll be others reporting from the trial when they can
https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/

Jury selection could be quite a process. There are 42 questions for each potential juror to answer, some with multiple parts.
Once the trial starts jurors will decide whether Trump is guilty of any of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Their decision must be unanimous. If they can't agree on a verdict, the judge can declare a mistrial. If jurors have a reasonable doubt that Trump is guilty, they have to acquit him. If they convict him, the judge will decide the sentence.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-jury-selection-hu...

Edited by Blackpuddin on Monday 15th April 12:16

[andygo]

Blackpuddin said:

Jury selection could be quite a process. There's are 42 questions for each potential juror to answer, some with multiple parts.
Once the trial starts jurors will decide whether Trump is guilty of any of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Their decision must be unanimous. If they can't agree on a verdict, the judge can declare a mistrial. If jurors have a reasonable doubt that Trump is guilty, they have to acquit him. If they convict him, the judge will decide the sentence.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-jury-selection-hu...

I'd imagine an unanimus verdict is going to be hard to get to, given the number of nutters that seem to inhabit American juries.

[Blackpuddin]

andygo said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jury selection could be quite a process. There's are 42 questions for each potential juror to answer, some with multiple parts.
Once the trial starts jurors will decide whether Trump is guilty of any of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Their decision must be unanimous. If they can't agree on a verdict, the judge can declare a mistrial. If jurors have a reasonable doubt that Trump is guilty, they have to acquit him. If they convict him, the judge will decide the sentence.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-jury-selection-hu...

I'd imagine an unanimous verdict is going to be hard to get to, given the number of nutters that seem to inhabit American juries.

In an ideal world at least one Trumpite gets selected and they are brought round and made to see sense by the rest of the jurors. Of course there'll still be complaints about 'rigged juries' but with this lot that will happen regardless of the jury's constitution. The difficulty will be in protecting the jury members from being nobbled.

[Byker28i]

Salon columnist Amanda Marcotte is claiming trump's multiple attempts to derail and delay the trial for over a year is a sign of his "abject terror" about what Stormy will say not only in the trial but outside as well.

She's going to get to tell her side of the story, and the threats she faced for telling it
https://www.salon.com/2024/04/15/right-to-fear-sto...

[RustyMX5]

andygo said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jury selection could be quite a process. There's are 42 questions for each potential juror to answer, some with multiple parts.
Once the trial starts jurors will decide whether Trump is guilty of any of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Their decision must be unanimous. If they can't agree on a verdict, the judge can declare a mistrial. If jurors have a reasonable doubt that Trump is guilty, they have to acquit him. If they convict him, the judge will decide the sentence.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-jury-selection-hu...

I'd imagine an unanimus verdict is going to be hard to get to, given the number of nutters that seem to inhabit American juries.

This is a point I was trying to make to CGT a while back. If just one of the jury say 'Not guilty' that has a potential knock on effect for all the other trials as it would throw into doubt the strength of those cases. The flip side is that a unanimous guilty verdict would strengthen the other cases.

[Byker28i]

Blackpuddin said:

andygo said:

Blackpuddin said:

Jury selection could be quite a process. There's are 42 questions for each potential juror to answer, some with multiple parts.
Once the trial starts jurors will decide whether Trump is guilty of any of 34 counts of falsifying business records. Their decision must be unanimous. If they can't agree on a verdict, the judge can declare a mistrial. If jurors have a reasonable doubt that Trump is guilty, they have to acquit him. If they convict him, the judge will decide the sentence.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-jury-selection-hu...

I'd imagine an unanimous verdict is going to be hard to get to, given the number of nutters that seem to inhabit American juries.

In an ideal world at least one Trumpite gets selected and they are brought round and made to see sense by the rest of the jurors. Of course there'll still be complaints about 'rigged juries' but with this lot that will happen regardless of the jury's constitution. The difficulty will be in protecting the jury members from being nobbled.

Court officials expect about 500 new jurors each day to be available, with about 100 brought at a time into judge Mechan's courtroom for vetting, and Lisa Rubin twas on "Morning Joe" saying that she thinks trump running his mouth off over the weekend will be addressed first. Plus trumps lawyers will be under orders to attack the gag order again.

Also trump's lawyers get 10 peremptory strikes, knocking anyone off they don't like the look of without giving a reason.

Rubin also thinks trump won't be able to control his temper


MSNBC say around 1500 jurors, to be available
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/jury-s...

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 15th April 13:24

[Byker28i]

Epic projection on Fox pushing trumps view plus "you only need one juror"
https://twitter.com/i/status/1779846688997343403

Then Sen. Katie Britt saying it's all the left's melt down over trump, claiming it's a political hit ob
https://twitter.com/i/status/1779836047045566691


Amazing how they forgot Cohen spent a year in jail for his part, that trump as “Individual-1,” was a co-conspirator.

As pointed out, all the prosecution has to prove is that trump falsified business records with “intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.”

Which they have the paperwork and testimony to back it up. Thats why trump is so worried, ranting so much

Edited by Byker28i on Monday 15th April 13:30