Rape Gang - How'd they get away with it for so long?
Discussion
Countdown said:
Mermaid said:
s1962a said:
This also affects decent Pakistanis as well who are as shocked at these vile creatures.
Not seen/heard any outrage expressed or steps taken at local mosques to form vigilante groups to protect their minority group reputation that's going down fast. Glad to hear of some initiatives.Not sure how practical the vigilante groups would be, to be honest.
This really needs a shift within the communitiy's harbouring these vile creatures. Those upright and decent members of the community who purport to be appalled by these activities have to come out of the closet and stand firm against the minority of their compatriots who are dragging their culture through the mire, naming, shaming and alienating the perpetrators. The problem with the silent majority are that they are exactly that - silent.
primary colours said:
I'm not sure that practicality is the issue, once vigilante groups are accepted as an appropriate response to a situation we open a Pandora's box and you have self-appointed 'guardians' walking the street in 'protection' of any number of perceived rights, therein lies complete anarchy.
That is effectively what I meant about practicality. It would be stupid to have such vigilante groups roaming around, especially "single issue" groups with their own interests.primary colours said:
This really needs a shift within the communitiy's harbouring these vile creatures. Those upright and decent members of the community who purport to be appalled by these activities have to come out of the closet and stand firm against the minority of their compatriots who are dragging their culture through the mire, naming, shaming and alienating the perpetrators. The problem with the silent majority are that they are exactly that - silent.
I've made this point before and I'll say it again. These "people" don't flaunt their actions except within a small like-minded group. I'm not sure why people assume the British Pakistani community is any different from any other community in the UK. The decent majority will not associate knowingly with criminals. Let me turn it around. I assume your white British - do you know who your local paedophiles are? Are you "tolerating" them? Do you secretly blame the girls for being cheap trash?
I'll give you an example - I know somebody who's married but has a white girlfriend. The rumour is he also deals in "drugs" (don't know what kind, probably marijuana, or maybe something worse). I don't mix with him at all but, for all I know, he might be involved in serious crime. Given that all I have is suspicions and rumour what do I "report" him for? If it was a white guy what would you do?
Personally every single muslim I mix with would quite happily see these scumballs castrated on Pay per View TV. They deserve nothing less, and I'm sure most PH'ers would agree. If you think the general muslim community is tolerating or even condoning this, you couldn't be more wrong.
Still, at least the closet BNP/EDL supporters have something to cheer about.
BliarOut said:
The BNP and radical Muslims are both equal in my books. Both are utter scum and need a f
king good kicking whatever their colour.
Scum is scum whatever the heritage...
One only exists (or gains support) because of the other.king good kicking whatever their colour.Scum is scum whatever the heritage...
Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
odyssey2200 said:
One only exists (or gains support) because of the other.
Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The NF existed well before radical islam in the UK. Before the muslims it was the blacks. Before the blacks it was the Jews. So to suggest that BNP/EDL only exist because of radical islam is rubbish.Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The only reason BNP/EDL make a fuss specifically about Islam is because being anti-Muslim is seen as justifiable at the moment.
Countdown said:
odyssey2200 said:
One only exists (or gains support) because of the other.
Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The NF existed well before radical islam in the UK. Before the muslims it was the blacks. Before the blacks it was the Jews. So to suggest that BNP/EDL only exist because of radical islam is rubbish.Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The only reason BNP/EDL make a fuss specifically about Islam is because being anti-Muslim is seen as justifiable at the moment.
You're surely not defending radical Islam are you?
Countdown said:
odyssey2200 said:
One only exists (or gains support) because of the other.
Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The NF existed well before radical islam in the UK. Before the muslims it was the blacks. Before the blacks it was the Jews. So to suggest that BNP/EDL only exist because of radical islam is rubbish.Sort out the Radicals and (the perception of) their special treatment and the other has little or no credibility or worth.
The only reason BNP/EDL make a fuss specifically about Islam is because being anti-Muslim is seen as justifiable at the moment.
In the 70s it was a different ethnic group that it currently is
I do not recall the Jews being a target but I am not that old
While their actions are distasteful our leaders, the appeasers and some Muslims themselves seen to be happy to make all the bullets that the NF, BNP and EDL could ever need to fire.
Lots of own goals being scored.
BliarOut said:
Could it be the NF/BNP were wise ahead of their years?
Sounds like you're defending the NF/BNP. Are you?When you say "wise ahead of their years" can I jusr check which NF policies you think were reasonable? Bear in mind it was colour they had a problem with rather tha religion (It wasn't immigration as they are happy with that as long as it's white)?
BliarOut said:
You're surely not defending radical Islam are you?
Not at all. They can do one as far as I care. However, if Im honest, neither I nor any of my freinds have been attacked by radical islam, been spat at, or had bricks put through our windows by radical islam. So I hope you can understand why I worry more about BNP/EDL than RI.odyssey2200 said:
They exist and rant about whoever is seen to get preferential treatment at the time.
So - What preferential treatment were black people getting in the 70s and 80s?You don't think that the NF were deliberately using this accusation as a scare tactic to encourage white people to vote for them?
Countdown said:
odyssey2200 said:
They exist and rant about whoever is seen to get preferential treatment at the time.
So - What preferential treatment were black people getting in the 70s and 80s?You don't think that the NF were deliberately using this accusation as a scare tactic to encourage white people to vote for them?
Yet still the BNP garner next to zero votes, so why are they mentioned so much when they're so irrelevant?
chris watton said:
Countdown said:
odyssey2200 said:
They exist and rant about whoever is seen to get preferential treatment at the time.
So - What preferential treatment were black people getting in the 70s and 80s?You don't think that the NF were deliberately using this accusation as a scare tactic to encourage white people to vote for them?
Yet still the BNP garner next to zero votes, so why are they mentioned so much when they're so irrelevant?
So how many people have the BNP/NF killed in the last couple of decades?
How easy is it for the BNP/NF to indoctrinate large groups of children through schools and regular meetings held by a widely respected "elder" to thinking that anyone who is different is inferior - especially women?
How easy is it for the BNP/NF to indoctrinate large groups of children through schools and regular meetings held by a widely respected "elder" to thinking that the laws of the land that they are living in are inferior to laws written by barely literate men who, at the time, thought that having sex with nine year olds was OK?
How many BNP/NF rape gangs have been prosecuted?
The talk about the BNP and the NF is a smokescreen for people who don't want to accept that their ways of doing things, such as not following the laws of the land and finding sexual abuse against children repugnant, wrong.
How easy is it for the BNP/NF to indoctrinate large groups of children through schools and regular meetings held by a widely respected "elder" to thinking that anyone who is different is inferior - especially women?
How easy is it for the BNP/NF to indoctrinate large groups of children through schools and regular meetings held by a widely respected "elder" to thinking that the laws of the land that they are living in are inferior to laws written by barely literate men who, at the time, thought that having sex with nine year olds was OK?
How many BNP/NF rape gangs have been prosecuted?
The talk about the BNP and the NF is a smokescreen for people who don't want to accept that their ways of doing things, such as not following the laws of the land and finding sexual abuse against children repugnant, wrong.
Edited by Jessicus on Saturday 29th September 11:28
chris watton said:
And where did it get the NF?
That's because (despite BlairOut thinking they were "wise ahead of their time" most people saw them for the racist tts they really were.chris watton said:
How many votes do the BNP get now? Virtually zilch, isn't it?
IIRC its was something like 500k + at the last election. We've had a spate of BNP councillors and there's even 2 BNP MEPs. From my point of view that's a bit more than zilch. chris watton said:
In fact, if I were to judge things now, I'd say that during the '80's, the UK was a much more tolerant place than it is now
I can tell you from actual practical experience that it's not. As kids growing up in the 70's we would regularly get racist abuse from adults. At that time the white kids who would stand up and fight back next to you were in a minority (Richard Horrocks - mate, you were a legend . Whereas now openly racist behaviour has to hide in dark places. Of course you might think it's "PC gone mad". For me it means my kids don't have to put up with the crap that me and my brothers had to (and its one of the things that makes me so proud to be british)
chris watton said:
Yet still the BNP Radical islam garner next to zero votes, so why are they mentioned so much when they're so irrelevant?
No idea.Edited by Countdown on Saturday 29th September 11:30
Countdown said:
chris watton said:
Yet still the BNP Radical islam garner next to zero votes, so why are they mentioned so much when they're so irrelevant?
No idea.https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22BNP+rape+gang...
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22muslim+rape+g...
Edited by Marf on Saturday 29th September 11:30
Countdown said:
BliarOut said:
Could it be the NF/BNP were wise ahead of their years?
Sounds like you're defending the NF/BNP. Are you?When you say "wise ahead of their years" can I jusr check which NF policies you think were reasonable? Bear in mind it was colour they had a problem with rather tha religion (It wasn't immigration as they are happy with that as long as it's white)?
BliarOut said:
You're surely not defending radical Islam are you?
Not at all. They can do one as far as I care. However, if Im honest, neither I nor any of my freinds have been attacked by radical islam, been spat at, or had bricks put through our windows by radical islam. So I hope you can understand why I worry more about BNP/EDL than RI.You can understand why I think Radical Islamists deserve the NF and all that entails.
It's ying and yang, they both deserve each other.
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