Doctors what makes them special?
Discussion
Dont they realise the pot is empty, I thought doctors were supposed to be clever!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18254499
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18254499
Adrian W said:
Dont they realise the pot is empty, I thought doctors were supposed to be clever!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18254499
Havent you realised yet, everybody thinks they are a special case...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18254499
Eric Mc said:
I wonder how much public sympathy they have?
It seems the only people who feel it is OK to strike are those who are paid directly or indirectly from the public purse.
BA cabin crew did OK out of it in the end.It seems the only people who feel it is OK to strike are those who are paid directly or indirectly from the public purse.
The trouble is most private sector employees aren't attached to a union and negotiate their own terms of employment with the employer. As a result they are less well protected but are able to transfer their skills more easily to different employers to improve their lot.
Eric Mc said:
The assertion that those employed in the public sector have more intransigent management.
I would say the opposite.
I am not talking about management. I am talking about employers. In the public sector these are not one and the same.I would say the opposite.
Politicians hold the purse strings, and dictate terms and conditions, not managers.
rohrl said:
Call their bluff. They're already very well paid.
Where are they going to work if not the NHS? There isn't enough private work for all of them.
There would be no NHS if we got pushed out, we are amongst the best trained doctors in the world, we aren't easy to replace. Where are they going to work if not the NHS? There isn't enough private work for all of them.
I've heard rumours plans to form chambers and contract back to the NHS are in place, then you'd see what a free market prices medical labour at (see America for reference).
Eric Mc said:
I wonder how much public sympathy they have?
I'm not sure we really care any more. We've had real term pay cuts for five years in a row, now they want to make us contribute twice as much to our pension as civil servants do whilst simultaneously destroying working conditions, training and the ability to do our job properly. A good pension is one of the only decent financial paybacks we have.
Chrisw666 said:
They might be clever but they work in the public sector, the thing is I'd rather have well paid and well trained doctors than train or tanker drivers as any grunt can be brought up to speed on those simple tasks.
Do you realise how much training is needed to qualify to drive a train with 600 people on board at 125mph?, a bit more than a few hours in the classroom...
Sevo said:
We've had real term pay cuts for five years in a row, now they want to make us contribute twice as much to our pension as civil servants do whilst simultaneously destroying working conditions, training and the ability to do our job properly. A good pension is one of the only decent financial paybacks we have.
Those of us not in the Public Sector have had real term pay cuts for five or more years in a row, many of us have to source our own pension scheme or have one that can never measure up to that of a lowly paid PS worker, we have to work longer, harder and be smarter to cope with changing conditions and we have to kiss goodbye to most training due to time and financial constraints. But you keep playing that violin if it makes you feel better.
Doctors may be well trained, valued and essential parts of society, but the assertion that you are somehow worse off than average Joe is simply ludicrous.
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