Has Climategate affected your voting preference?

Has Climategate affected your voting preference?

Poll: Has Climategate affected your voting preference?

Total Members Polled: 168

Labour: 4%
Conservative: 36%
Liberal Democrats: 1%
UKIP: 50%
Green Party: 2%
BNP: 6%
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B Oeuf

Original Poster:

39,731 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I feel CMDs stubborness and Browns delusion will change how people vote next year, what say you lot?

richardxjr

7,561 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Totally.

I am actually thinking of joining UKIP not just voting for them.

2 weeks ago I was as solid a tory voter as you could get.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

192 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Indeed, I used to be a true blue. Now though, they all appear to be the same colour (red, with a touch of green), they just wear different coloured ties.

The only parties that seem to hold dear to their original beliefs are the greens (unfortunately), the BNP (again, unfortunately) and the UKIP.

I think that anyone, who would normally have voted blue, should go UKIP. They seem to be the ones who hold the old Tory values plus the ability to tell the EU and the green movement to sod off.

That's where my vote will be going next year, along with a lot of other ex-Tory voters too I can imagine.

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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It doesn't look like I'll have a a UKIP candidate at the next election but may take a bit more notice of the independents next time around. Prior to Nohopehagen I was Tory, always have been.

Pooh

3,692 posts

255 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I have sympathy with UKIP but voting for them just increases the chance of a hung parliament/Labour victory so I will be voting Tory.

Monki

1,233 posts

193 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Used to vote Tory, now voting UKIP as they're the only ones apart from the BNP questioning this climate nonsense.

And I have also informed the Tory candidate for my area that I have changed my vote on that basis biggrin hopefully if enough people do it, they might start to think "hang on a minute....."

Don

28,377 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Honestly. We must be rid of the current idiots.

Therefore I will vote tactically for the Party most likely to oust them.

This happens to fit the Conservatives in my area.

I want New Labour gone. Preferably forever.

Think of this list of names and decide if you want to waste your vote:

Gordon Brown, Alastair Darling, Jacqui Smith, Harriet Harman.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

192 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Pooh said:
I have sympathy with UKIP but voting for them just increases the chance of a hung parliament/Labour victory so I will be voting Tory.
Ah, but that's the problem with tactical voting, the messages don't get through wuite so clearly. I used to think the same way, but having seen the nukmber of posts on CMD's blog stating that they were going to vote UKIP, I think if those people who like their policies did vote they may even get in. If you like UKIP then vote for them.

We must all make our voices heard, regardless of who you want to win or lose etc, I would say the same to a green or BNP voter. Vote for who you want, not to ensure that the people you don't want lose.

All IMO of course.

timberman

1,293 posts

217 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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AshVX220 said:
Pooh said:
I have sympathy with UKIP but voting for them just increases the chance of a hung parliament/Labour victory so I will be voting Tory.
Ah, but that's the problem with tactical voting, the messages don't get through wuite so clearly. I used to think the same way, but having seen the nukmber of posts on CMD's blog stating that they were going to vote UKIP, I think if those people who like their policies did vote they may even get in. If you like UKIP then vote for them.

We must all make our voices heard, regardless of who you want to win or lose etc, I would say the same to a green or BNP voter. Vote for who you want, not to ensure that the people you don't want lose.

All IMO of course.
agreed 100%

people should always vote on the policies.

If everybody did this instead of trying to vote tactically then at the very least the tories and labour would see the lack of support they truly have and it may even rid us of the useless tts altogether

Mark Benson

7,551 posts

271 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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AshVX220 said:
Pooh said:
I have sympathy with UKIP but voting for them just increases the chance of a hung parliament/Labour victory so I will be voting Tory.
We must all make our voices heard, regardless of who you want to win or lose etc, I would say the same to a green or BNP voter. Vote for who you want, not to ensure that the people you don't want lose.

All IMO of course.
This is the great quandry IMO.

Like several here I want rid of New Labour. But to replace them with a party who will sell us down the 'climate river' in the same way is no more attractive a prospect.

A general election is the only time my voice is heard. I live in a safe Tory seat (William Hague's, who I like as a politician and a person) but I can't vote for a representative of the party that appears not to question the AGW view after all that's gone on in the last few weeks.

If I and others voted UKIP and their margin were reduced, I hope that it would send a message to the leadership that they risk losing further votes next time unless they change tack.

If I lived in a marginal I feel the decision would be harder. But as I said, this is the only time in 5 years I get my voice heard, should I vote for who agrees more closely with my thinking, or should I vote to oust the people who agree least?

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Don said:
Honestly. We must be rid of the current idiots.

Therefore I will vote tactically for the Party most likely to oust them.

This happens to fit the Conservatives in my area.

I want New Labour gone. Preferably forever.

Think of this list of names and decide if you want to waste your vote:

Gordon Brown, Alastair Darling, Jacqui Smith, Harriet Harman.
Swap their faces and give them blue ties. Business as usual. rolleyes

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I am sorry, but I simply cannot vote for ANY party that sanctions a tax on what I exhale - be it labour or Conservative.
This is too big an issue to remain resolutely 'tribal', IMHO

B Oeuf

Original Poster:

39,731 posts

286 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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The problem with modern politics is trust, we just don't trust them so all we can do is be true to ourselves and vote for the party we want to win not the party we want to oust the current bunch. From what I can see the UKIP have made astonishing ground and could surprise everyone.

Mon Ami Mate

6,589 posts

270 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Vote UKIP = get Labour.

richardxjr

7,561 posts

212 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Vote UKIP = get Labour.
So be it.

Then the tories will be forced to listen to the electorate and then we stand half a chance for the future.

Another 5 years of Brown, or a lifetime of others just like him?

I've made my mind up.

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Mon Ami Mate said:
Vote UKIP = get Labour.
Vote Tory, get labour with blue ties.

They are the same on key issues as well as pretty much all else.

Vote Tory, get sent back to the stone age, paralysed with more tax and regulated more in a superstate we don't want.

There is a popular delusion that the Tory party is libertarian and right wing.

Wake up and smell the same brand of environmental-euro-social democracy. rolleyes

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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Tangent Police said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Vote UKIP = get Labour.
Vote Tory, get labour with blue ties.

They are the same on key issues as well as pretty much all else.

Vote Tory, get sent back to the stone age, paralysed with more tax and regulated more in a superstate we don't want.

There is a popular delusion that the Tory party is libertarian and right wing.

Wake up and smell the same brand of environmental-euro-social democracy. rolleyes
That's the way I see it but I've given my local representative a chance to influence where she can and emailed her to tell her why I will be voting elsewhere in future.

XJR40

5,983 posts

215 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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I'm still hoping that CMD is doing what it takes to get elected by the masses and will show his true colours once installed in number ten. I feel I've got to vote tactically to get rid of Brown and friends.

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

178 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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DieselGriff said:
Tangent Police said:
Mon Ami Mate said:
Vote UKIP = get Labour.
Vote Tory, get labour with blue ties.

They are the same on key issues as well as pretty much all else.

Vote Tory, get sent back to the stone age, paralysed with more tax and regulated more in a superstate we don't want.

There is a popular delusion that the Tory party is libertarian and right wing.

Wake up and smell the same brand of environmental-euro-social democracy. rolleyes
That's the way I see it but I've given my local representative a chance to influence where she can and emailed her to tell her why I will be voting elsewhere in future.
Let's face it, they are group-thinking drones, only concerned with the longevity of their trough.

I have emailed a few politicians and got the same unthinking, ill educated st party-line response.

Is the party the priority or your fking electorate?

Funnily enough, the popularly deried UKIP seem to have a point. I would like to popularly point and laugh at them as well, as I like to feel the smugness of right, just like any other fking sheep, but in this case, I will go with what IS right. No to EU and No to AGW.

Any other vote is a Yes to EU and a Yes to AGW.

shoot

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Tuesday 8th December 2009
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To vote for either of the main parties is to say you are happy with mainstream politics.

I can't vote for either of the main parties as they are both st.

And as for cameron I really can't tell the difference from him or brown