Shamed by Sarbjit Kaur Athwal
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Sorry for the wail link, but a pretty amazing story and worth the 5 minute read
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341981/My...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341981/My...
Give an insight into the inner workings of the west London Sikh community and why they are so good at keeping off the front pages !
Even the local preist and the Sikh temple which is one of the biggest in the world outside of India , was trying to get this poor girl to change her story
The real hero here was the police officer IMO, what a top bloke!
Even the local preist and the Sikh temple which is one of the biggest in the world outside of India , was trying to get this poor girl to change her story
The real hero here was the police officer IMO, what a top bloke!
I don't want to get into the cultural shenanigans etc. (we have another threads on various shenanigans) but this mother-in-law is no joke!
"Nothing happened that night, and the following morning my mother-in-law smiled sweetly. ‘I’ve been thinking,’ she said. ‘You’ve never met our family in India, so I’ve decided I’m going to take you on a trip.’"
"Nothing happened that night, and the following morning my mother-in-law smiled sweetly. ‘I’ve been thinking,’ she said. ‘You’ve never met our family in India, so I’ve decided I’m going to take you on a trip.’"
fido said:
I don't want to get into the cultural shenanigans etc. (we have another threads on various shenanigans) but this mother-in-law is no joke!
"Nothing happened that night, and the following morning my mother-in-law smiled sweetly. ‘I’ve been thinking,’ she said. ‘You’ve never met our family in India, so I’ve decided I’m going to take you on a trip.’"
Sounds like something you would see in The Sopranos"Nothing happened that night, and the following morning my mother-in-law smiled sweetly. ‘I’ve been thinking,’ she said. ‘You’ve never met our family in India, so I’ve decided I’m going to take you on a trip.’"
I have a couple of mates who are Sikhs who both went through arranged marriages, which have worked out fine,but they say that their children will definitely not be subject to arranged marriage.Both these guys are well educated and born in the UK, and did the traditional thing to please their parents.
Hopefully, the next generation won't be subject to this kind of barbarism and ignorance.
But as others have said, Clive Driscoll is obviously a top bloke and ensured that justice took its course in this case.
Hopefully, the next generation won't be subject to this kind of barbarism and ignorance.
But as others have said, Clive Driscoll is obviously a top bloke and ensured that justice took its course in this case.
She might describe herself and her sister as "no less British than Lucie Blackman" but the fact that she was entangled in this bizarre medieval, mess of arranged marriages and life or death based on the honour of the family, is not British, it is drawn very distinctively from the barbarism of rural, northern India.
A very sad story, but one that we will see repeated so long as British "multiculturalism" means bringing your own little portion of the third world to the UK, complete with the attendant violence and disregard for basic human rights.
And I am not saying this as a frothing at the mouth racist. I have a very good friend who is a secular Sikh who I feel sure would say much the same. If you want the benefits of living in a western democracy then you can't just take the money and use it to make a big face in your third world community. Go to the temple, wear your turban if you want, but leave the honour killings and arranged marriages where they belong.
A very sad story, but one that we will see repeated so long as British "multiculturalism" means bringing your own little portion of the third world to the UK, complete with the attendant violence and disregard for basic human rights.
And I am not saying this as a frothing at the mouth racist. I have a very good friend who is a secular Sikh who I feel sure would say much the same. If you want the benefits of living in a western democracy then you can't just take the money and use it to make a big face in your third world community. Go to the temple, wear your turban if you want, but leave the honour killings and arranged marriages where they belong.
AJS- said:
And I just read to the bottom where she states that "my faith in my religion hasn’t wavered" which given all that went before it ranks highly amongst the stupidest statements I have read in my entire life.
Imaginary friend disease is the most evil force on the planet. We must eradicate it for the sake of the human race. The problem is how? We cannot achieve it by violence, we are unlikely to be successful by education. I think only by humour and ridicule will we ever get rid. We could start by removing religious studies from the exam list and ban degrees in theology though. Sacking the bishops out of the lords and taxing the churches at 99.999999% would be a start. Then turn the bankrupt churches into flats for the homeless or "affordable housing". Jailing the catholic pervert priests would be a good move too.It's a nice idea in a way but the reality is that you would polarise all the secular, moderate religious people into one camp or the other, and most likely against you.
I'd settle for no legal recognition of it, and no special sensitivity required or expected when discussing it. Once you remove these it becomes basically a historical curiosity. If a few people choose to stick to it for family or cultural reasons then so be it. Let it wither and die, don't try and kill it and so make it stronger.
I'd settle for no legal recognition of it, and no special sensitivity required or expected when discussing it. Once you remove these it becomes basically a historical curiosity. If a few people choose to stick to it for family or cultural reasons then so be it. Let it wither and die, don't try and kill it and so make it stronger.
AJS- said:
And I just read to the bottom where she states that "my faith in my religion hasn’t wavered" which given all that went before it ranks highly amongst the stupidest statements I have read in my entire life.
As as been mentioned, this is a cultural thing, not a religious thing. So called 'honour' killings (wrong name in my opinion but there you go) are committed by people of different religious beliefs, inter alia by Sikhs, Hindus and Muslems. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff