City bonuses - they're at it again.

City bonuses - they're at it again.

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Ozzie Osmond

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21,189 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Here we go in the usual way with FTSE rising towards the year end when books are ruled off for the year, everyone congratulates themselves on how well they've done and pockets their incentive payments. Even with BP (accounting for a huge 5% of the index) in decline on news of US lawsuits the boys still keep the index moving up to line their pockets.

My own prediction back in June was 6,000 by year end. At the end of October it still looked possible but then a stream of bad news through November took more than 300 points off the index in November at which point I'd have expected the index to settle through the New Year.

But no. Here we are in December with not a hint of good news in sight yet the index is being talked up on hopes that British companies have enjoyed good profit growth through the second half of the year. Line yer pockets lads!!

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Join the Party!! Ozzie is hosting.

zac510

5,546 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Why don't you get in on the gravy train and trade FTSE futures contracts? smile

loafer123

15,501 posts

217 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Marf said:


Join the Party!! Ozzie is hosting.
Is that CrankedUp or Stalin on the left - I can't tell from here?

Sticks.

8,860 posts

253 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Here we go in the usual way with FTSE rising towards the year end when books are ruled off for the year, everyone congratulates themselves on how well they've done and pockets their incentive payments. Even with BP (accounting for a huge 5% of the index) in decline on news of US lawsuits the boys still keep the index moving up to line their pockets.

My own prediction back in June was 6,000 by year end. At the end of October it still looked possible but then a stream of bad news through November took more than 300 points off the index in November at which point I'd have expected the index to settle through the New Year.

But no. Here we are in December with not a hint of good news in sight yet the index is being talked up on hopes that British companies have enjoyed good profit growth through the second half of the year. Line yer pockets lads!!
You shoud know better than to criticise the financial sector on NPE. Your post doesn't mention the Daily Wail, pub sec pensions, asylum seekers or that it makes your p1ss boil so, in the unique logic of NPE it seems you must be a commie.

baz1985

3,598 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Tax receipts generated- excellent news.....I'll tell George.

R1 Loon

26,988 posts

179 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Even with BP (accounting for a huge 5% of the index) in decline on news of US lawsuits the boys still keep the index moving up to line their pockets.
Check your facts. BP fell notionally today and has recovered most of that. It's currently at a 6 month high this week and well on the way back to mid 500s.

Where's the reference in your post to bonuses too that's highlighted in the title?

BTW I'll be picking a tidy bonus up this year and I don't work in banking, does that make me a bad person?

Edited by R1 Loon on Thursday 16th December 15:00

4Q

1,277 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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R1 Loon said:
BTW I'll be picking a tidy bonus up this year and I don't work in banking, does that make me a bad person?
Yes.

Because I don't get one.

ETA: wink

Edited by 4Q on Thursday 16th December 14:46

Sticks.

8,860 posts

253 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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R1 Loon said:
BTW I'll be picking a tidy bonus up this year and I don't work in banking, does that make me a bad person?
Do you work in the pub sec? Then yes wink


laugh

BrabusMog

20,277 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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4Q said:
R1 Loon said:
BTW I'll be picking a tidy bonus up this year and I don't work in banking, does that make me a bad person?
Yes.

Because I don't get one.

ETA: wink

Edited by 4Q on Thursday 16th December 14:46
Ha, I've already had mine. 12.5% smile

Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Do you know how much tax the City paid last year?

£53bn.

Ozzie Osmond

Original Poster:

21,189 posts

248 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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My point is a simple one. Illegal (though hard to prove) manipulation of the market to "sex-up" year end performance figures and thereby artificially enhance performance and thus financial rewards.

Click back on some historic FTSE charts and it's pretty apparent. (Albeit peaked a tad early at the end of 2007)

No, I don't trade derivatives myself. My BP shares are doing just fine though!


Zod

35,295 posts

260 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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So you posit that the whole market is conspiring to manipulate the FTSE to a year end high?

If only it were so easy. That is laughable.

zac510

5,546 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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The only thing stupider is that he knows it's going up and he's not taking advantage of it smile

rich1231

17,331 posts

262 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
My point is a simple one. Illegal (though hard to prove) manipulation of the market to "sex-up" year end performance figures and thereby artificially enhance performance and thus financial rewards.

Click back on some historic FTSE charts and it's pretty apparent. (Albeit peaked a tad early at the end of 2007)

No, I don't trade derivatives myself. My BP shares are doing just fine though!

Moron really.

What are the volumes traded at end of calender year, how do they compare with other months oh Ozzie.

wolves_wanderer

12,421 posts

239 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
My point is a simple one. Illegal (though hard to prove) manipulation of the market to "sex-up" year end performance figures and thereby artificially enhance performance and thus financial rewards.

Click back on some historic FTSE charts and it's pretty apparent. (Albeit peaked a tad early at the end of 2007)

No, I don't trade derivatives myself. My BP shares are doing just fine though!

rofl

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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loafer123 said:
Marf said:


Join the Party!! Ozzie is hosting.
Is that CrankedUp or Stalin on the left - I can't tell from here?
rofl

550Hep

3,135 posts

219 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Oh FFS really? Oh bless... Have a virtual pat on the head and a there there... hehe

DonkeyApple

56,273 posts

171 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Here we go in the usual way with FTSE rising towards the year end when books are ruled off for the year, everyone congratulates themselves on how well they've done and pockets their incentive payments. Even with BP (accounting for a huge 5% of the index) in decline on news of US lawsuits the boys still keep the index moving up to line their pockets.

My own prediction back in June was 6,000 by year end. At the end of October it still looked possible but then a stream of bad news through November took more than 300 points off the index in November at which point I'd have expected the index to settle through the New Year.

But no. Here we are in December with not a hint of good news in sight yet the index is being talked up on hopes that British companies have enjoyed good profit growth through the second half of the year. Line yer pockets lads!!
rofl I'm guessing this is all based on having no understanding of the constituents, basic economics or having done any research into these constituents?

I think you're getting confused between the British economy and global businesses listed on a British stock exchange. There isn't much correlation, you do realise this? wink

crankedup

25,764 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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loafer123 said:
Marf said:


Join the Party!! Ozzie is hosting.
Is that CrankedUp or Stalin on the left - I can't tell from here?
Ha! scoff my friends scoff, but learn from the Russians (the ones who don't work) and real money comes in lorry loads.