Theresa May

[don4l]

desolate said:

el stovey said:

desolate said:

I see don4l has had some wine with Sunday lunch.

At least he's finally moved on from accusing everyone of hating their country and being bedwetters.

Unfortunately not, he was at it this afternoon.

Fair enough. Why don't you correct me?

Tell us what you love about your country, and why you would like to see it prosper.

[don4l]

desolate said:

Borghetto said:

Sadly Don4L just another bunch of wingers having lost the referendum will look for any excuse to find fault with our country. Perhaps they should join their natural allies in Holyrood the SNP. I voted remain, but now we're on our way out, I want to see the UK succeed; not spend my time trying to undermine our Government. No the Tories aren't perfect, but look at the other parties in Westminster/Holyrood if you want to witness real incompetents at work.

When I played Rugby I was a full back, not a winger.

I was No 8.

The big bd.

[don4l]

desolate said:

don4l said:

Fair enough. Why don't you correct me?

Tell us what you love about your country, and why you would like to see it prosper.

I will probably regret this....

If we look at the final part of your post - my family's entire future is reliant on the prosperity of this country, in the short and medium term at least. I am fully invested in the future of this country.

To that end 33 people will be in work tomorrow in businesses founded (and funded) by me (Whether that be on my own or with others), all of whom enjoy conditions way better than the norm for their sector. I would imagine that this will increase to around 50 people by this time next year.

3 other start up businesses are enjoying a leg up that was unavailable to them anywhere else.

So in terms of this country's prosperity I am completely sure that I do my bit.

I have no party political allegiances so can see further than the end my nose when it comes to news, politics and economics and value the informed opinion of others whether left, right, British or foreign.

My immediate family are all of working class backgrounds and from Liverpool. All grandparents Irish catholics who fought in the war and stayed in England. I know what patriotism and what it means, so I am proud of being British and can also recognise that like most other countries it's a bit of a curate's egg. I have no respect for authority or the establishment.

All you seem interested in is congratulating yourself on how clever and financially sound you are and laughing at "lefties"

So - do I pass your test or am I a bedwetter?

You appear to have only read the bold bit.

You haven't actually said anything good about the UK.

[don4l]

turbobloke said:

FN2TypeR said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/201...

Guardian/ICM poll gives Tories 17-point post-conference lead

PREPARE FOR GOVERNMENT OH BEARED WONDER!

Interesting. Thanks for the heads-up.

Detail at the Grauniad said:

Conservatives: 43% (up 2)

Labour: 26% (down 2)

Ukip: 11% (down 2)

Lib Dems: 8% (down 1)

Greens: 6% (up 2)

The fieldwork was carried out from Friday to Sunday.

What is wrong with people?

If one of these polling companies asks me what my voting intentions are, I shall wax lyrical about Corbyn's Labour Party.

I would suggest that everyone does the same thing.

[don4l]

AC43 said:

andymadmak said:

AC43 said:

andymadmak said:

JawKnee said:

Talking of hypocrites, Boris Johnson must be the biggest one going.

Because?

Because he spent a decade (very successfully) talking up London a global hub of international business before lobbing a massive fking grenade in. Purely in order to grab power for himself.

your response makes no sense. How did Johnson lob a grenade in?

You know what I can't even begin to explain how loathed he is here.

I accept that you loath him.

Please explain how he lobbed a grenade in.

If you don't give a rational explanation, then I am afraid that you are going to come across as a bit of a nutter.

I'm quite happy to come across as a bit of a nutter, but are you?

[don4l]

ATG said:

It was an embarrassingly stupid suggestion. It should never have seen the light of day. It wasn't part of a conference speech, but it was in the briefing back that was released afterwards. There's no point denying it. Listening to Rudd back peddling furiously on the Today programme the following morning was cringe-worthy. People make mistakes. Better to admit it and move on rather than talk ste, try to pretend it never happened and rob yourself of credibility. Trying to reinvent history after one whole week isn't likely to work.

I agree.

Unfortunately, Rudd, like most Remainers is trying to reinvent history.

[don4l]

DavidJG said:

A government that has little or no mandate, other than to 'leave', despite the exact meaning of 'leave' being unclear.

Why do people struggle to understand what "Leave" means.

It really couldn't be simpler.

Theresa May summed it up thusly:-
"Brexit means Brexit".

"Leave" means that we will cut all ties with the EU.

We will trade with the EU on the same basis as we trade with the USA, or Australia.

It really isn't complicated.

[don4l]

Adrian W said:

She's a female John Major, no one voted for her, no one will want to vote for her next time, but who else is there

John Major was leader of the Conservative party when they won the 1992 General Election.

[don4l]

MarshPhantom said:

Hard times were prexicted for if and when we left the EU. Have we done that yet?

Stop making stuff up.

Treasury Report said:

The analysis in this document comes to a clear central conclusion: a vote to leave would represent an immediate and profound shock to our economy. That shock would push our economy into a recession and lead to an increase in unemployment of around 500,000, GDP would be 3.6% smaller, average real wages would be lower, inflation
higher, sterling weaker, house prices would be hit and public borrowing would rise compared with a vote to remain.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

[don4l]

ATG said:

Given that Free Movement was going to be an insurmountable hurdle, it makes a great deal of sense both for May and our EU counterparts to announce that the UK is leaving the Single Market. Why? Because it gets the brand off the table. Prople won't get stuck on the words "single market". If the UK had managed to negotiate "continued membership of the Single Market with some concessions thrown in" the more knuckle-headed Brexiteers would have seen it as a betrayal, and similarly the more knuckle-headed voters in the rest of the EU would have seen it as unfair special treatment for the UK. May couldn't sell it to the UK, and Merkel, Hollande's successor, et al wouldn't have been able to sell it to their voterd either. Selling the compromise will be easier if it isn't labeled "EU Single Market".

Worth pointing out that May is going to try for a customs union with the EU. That only works if we continue to apply the same tariffs as the EU, the same standards for goods and sevices, etc ... i.e. not only will we not repeal anything right now (which is the purpose of the spectacularly mis-named "great repeal bill"), but we'll have to agree to keep in step with the EU in the future. "Taking back control" ... whatever.

And May's appeal at Davos for people to champion globalisation and consider the danger of people feeling left behind is a demonstration of what she thinks just happened in the UK. I.e. she doesn't see the Brexit vote as a rational, considered act. She sees it primarily as a protest vote driven by fear.

Did you hear, or read, her speech?

We are out of the customs union.

No ifs or buts.

[don4l]

ecurie said:

Jimboka said:

May has got the Conservatives in a real muddle & making our country look desperate & a laughing stock.
Holding Trumps hand like a love struck teenager . State visit offered in his first week. Roll forward a few days & her party openly criticise him. Self inflicted wounds & as dumb as the rude criticism from Bojo & co before he won.
Trump must be pretty confused by the populist furore from his new best friends party.

I understand May is desperate for a trade deal but if she continues like this she'll make Britain look even more like America's lapdog than Blair did. Come on, it used to be the French who surrendered, but the UK is quickly taking their place.

I would suggest that you Google "battle of Verdun" before you accuse the French of cowardice.

They lost about 340,000 lives at this city alone.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/world-war-one...