20mph speed limits to be imposed to protect cyclists
Discussion
In the cycling in London thread, 'a conclusion' was that advance stop lines encourage cyclists that think they know what theyre doing to squeeze through traffic to get there.
There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
saaby93 said:
In the cycling in London thread, 'a conclusion' was that advance stop lines encourage cyclists that think they know what theyre doing to squeeze through traffic to get there.
There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
Are any of us seriously saying we'd join the back of the queue if we were on our bikes? Has the British queueing mentality got that bad?There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
Traffic is there to be hacked through, if worth doing so, surely? When I'm in my car and I come across slow traffic, I pass it when I can. Is anyone here saying they don't?
heebeegeetee said:
saaby93 said:
In the cycling in London thread, 'a conclusion' was that advance stop lines encourage cyclists that think they know what theyre doing to squeeze through traffic to get there.
There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
Are any of us seriously saying we'd join the back of the queue if we were on our bikes? Has the British queueing mentality got that bad?There's another group of cyclists who know what theyre doing who hold station in traffic, moving when it moves, or let it pass.
The third group dont really know what theyre doing, see the first group and try to do the same and not only at advance stop lines
Surely 20mph limits will only make behaviour less predictable
Traffic is there to be hacked through, if worth doing so, surely? When I'm in my car and I come across slow traffic, I pass it when I can. Is anyone here saying they don't?
The limit thing is ridiculous though, a stupid idea to be seen to be doing something.
heebeegeetee said:
Are any of us seriously saying we'd join the back of the queue if we were on our bikes? Has the British queueing mentality got that bad?
Oi queuing isnt bad. Its good 
It's taken thousands of years to develop and means you know with certainty that when its your turn its your turn. Without it you get a fracas as everyone tries to rush to the front but doesnt quite get there and you all have to do it because if you hold back you'll never get a turn = mayhem.
Here's the quiet guy on a bike from another thread patiently queuing
The camera guy has weaved in and out of traffic before catching that image.
Here's someone not queueing
The cyclist has followed other cyclists in front who may think they know what they're doing, but this one may not. Is one type of cyclist misleading others?
You can see afterwards the cyclist turns right while the truck indicates and turns left, both luckily this time coming to no harm.
heebeegeetee said:
Are any of us seriously saying we'd join the back of the queue if we were on our bikes? Has the British queueing mentality got that bad?
Queuing is the bedrock of British civilisation, without queuing we are no better than monkeys. Or Frenchmen. That said IMO its perfectly acceptable for cyclists to filter to the front of a queue. What isn't acceptable is when these fluorescent fvckwits then sit in front of the lead car to deliberately block the rest of the queue for absolutely no reason other than to assert their 'right' to use the road. Hoofy said:
Remind me - are cyclists allowed to exceed 20mph in 20 zones or not?
20 zones are often 30mph limit where you're expected to do less than 20 due to various things across the road20 limits are 20mph
Applies to vehicles
Cycles have no speedos so wont know what speed theyre travelling
saaby93 said:
Hoofy said:
Remind me - are cyclists allowed to exceed 20mph in 20 zones or not?
20 zones are often 30mph limit where you're expected to do less than 20 due to various things across the road20 limits are 20mph
Applies to vehicles
Cycles have no speedos so wont know what speed theyre travelling
He must have known I was doing at least 20 as most people will do about 25.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff