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More to the point: Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam have all demonstrated air power alone doesn't win if the enemy is prepared for street to street or jungle fighting.
NK has been preparing for this for over half a century at the neglect of everything else, in particular her people.
The Americans will be just as keen as the Chinese to avoid getting deeply involved.
I can't see either side planning on venturing (much) over the DMZ except for a bit of artillery. There are bound to be enough listening devices to stop anybody venturing under it again too. Assuming all the tunnels have been found.
NK has been preparing for this for over half a century at the neglect of everything else, in particular her people.
The Americans will be just as keen as the Chinese to avoid getting deeply involved.
I can't see either side planning on venturing (much) over the DMZ except for a bit of artillery. There are bound to be enough listening devices to stop anybody venturing under it again too. Assuming all the tunnels have been found.
CDP said:
The Americans will be just as keen as the Chinese to avoid getting deeply involved.
Politics, do we need this conflict situation? How does it suit our intent?
Economics, which of us, China or the USA surrogate, wants to have the cost of bringing NK into the modern age?
Interlinked yes but any resolution will provide a clue as to the future.
WhoseGeneration said:
Economics, which of us, China or the USA surrogate, wants to have the cost of bringing NK into the modern age?
Until they got nukes I think both sides were quite happy to see NK contained in it's little 50's box.Somehow I can see NK just as likely to use them on China as Japan or SK.
Front page of BBC now, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641
Wikileaks claiming China no longer sees North Korea as a useful or reliable ally, South Korea claiming the North is dead financially now, and the government will collapse within 2-3 years of the Dear Leaders death.
An unnamed Chinese source has also supposedly told the South that the whole of Korea would be best under the control of Seoul, without US presence.
Wikileaks claiming China no longer sees North Korea as a useful or reliable ally, South Korea claiming the North is dead financially now, and the government will collapse within 2-3 years of the Dear Leaders death.
An unnamed Chinese source has also supposedly told the South that the whole of Korea would be best under the control of Seoul, without US presence.
sneijder said:
Front page of BBC now, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11871641
Wikileaks claiming China no longer sees North Korea as a useful or reliable ally, South Korea claiming the North is dead financially now, and the government will collapse within 2-3 years of the Dear Leaders death.
An unnamed Chinese source has also supposedly told the South that the whole of Korea would be best under the control of Seoul, without US presence.
Turns out China would like a capitalist Korea to whom they could sell things.Wikileaks claiming China no longer sees North Korea as a useful or reliable ally, South Korea claiming the North is dead financially now, and the government will collapse within 2-3 years of the Dear Leaders death.
An unnamed Chinese source has also supposedly told the South that the whole of Korea would be best under the control of Seoul, without US presence.
Who knew?
CDP said:
WhoseGeneration said:
Economics, which of us, China or the USA surrogate, wants to have the cost of bringing NK into the modern age?
Until they got nukes I think both sides were quite happy to see NK contained in it's little 50's box.Somehow I can see NK just as likely to use them on China as Japan or SK.
Somehow I can see NK just as likely to use them on China as Japan or SK.
I might be wrong mind you, but they could turn it around if they do it right, I'd also expect the leading countries to be encouraging it too, in order to keep the cost of manufacturing down.
China wouldn't be too happy though, and probably would prefer they stay in the dark ages.
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