Symbolic Burning

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fluffnik

20,156 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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I Love Lamp said:
I don't think you can compare the two acts - One was quite clearly anti race/religion, the other was anti war...
Both were protests, both were legitimate.

I value the freedom of others to offend me because without that freedom I have none.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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odyssey2200 said:
Shaid GTB said:
odyssey2200 said:
Shaid GTB said:
So the problem is your government then not ussmile
And there-in lies the problem
After all is it the way you see us is it not?
Sorry,

I thought the plan was that immigrants were supposed to integrate, therefore creating only an us

obviously you see it differently.
NO! (in tellytubbie voice)

You see it differently.

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Shaid GTB said:
Someone said:
There is a huge racist movement driven by our own government to marginalise and attack the indigenous white english race and I for one am sick of it.
Me said:
So the problem is your government then not us smile
You said said:
Why are you 'us'?

I thought you were British. Unless you wish to differentiate by race, creed, religion or colour, thus creating a divide which is what is being referred to.

Or am I missing something here.....
I'm not white smile
Did I question your colour?

Errr, no.

I am simply confused why you refer to yourself as 'us'

You are either part of 'us' or part of your own 'us' hence my confusion.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
Someone said:
There is a huge racist movement driven by our own government to marginalise and attack the indigenous white english race and I for one am sick of it.
Me said:
So the problem is your government then not us smile
You said said:
Why are you 'us'?

I thought you were British. Unless you wish to differentiate by race, creed, religion or colour, thus creating a divide which is what is being referred to.

Or am I missing something here.....
I'm not white smile
Did I question your colour?

Errr, no.

I am simply confused why you refer to yourself as 'us'

You are either part of 'us' or part of your own 'us' hence my confusion.
Can you please read the question i was replying to... thanks smile

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
Someone said:
There is a huge racist movement driven by our own government to marginalise and attack the indigenous white english race and I for one am sick of it.
Me said:
So the problem is your government then not us smile
You said said:
Why are you 'us'?

I thought you were British. Unless you wish to differentiate by race, creed, religion or colour, thus creating a divide which is what is being referred to.

Or am I missing something here.....
I'm not white smile
Did I question your colour?

Errr, no.

I am simply confused why you refer to yourself as 'us'

You are either part of 'us' or part of your own 'us' hence my confusion.
Can you please read the question i was replying to... thanks smile
Sorry, re-read and understood wink

pacman1

7,322 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Shaid GTB said:
Globs said:
odyssey2200 said:
M-J-B said:
JensenA said:
Shaid GTB said:
Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit in!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?
That is what the problem is, we all seem to be tippy toeing, and bending over backwards to take action against anyone who is remotely anti-Muslim, but any anti-British sentiment by Muslims is tolerated. And it is that which creates friction and resentment.
Well said that man clap
Have a few more

clapclapclap
+1

There is a huge racist movement driven by our own government to marginalise and attack the indigenous white english race and I for one am sick of it. If we treated other races this way there would be a PC uproar. PC (Politically Correct) seems to be the favourite stick to beat the (soon to be a minority) english race with: no one should be treated like this.
So the problem is yourour government then not us smile
efa. smile

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup

fido

16,882 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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I haven't bothered to read the previous pages, but on the odd occasions that i do trawl through these threads, the 'extremists' (whoever they are) have appeared to have achieved a partial victory because their objective is to cause disagreements between people (whoever they are) and hence the vicious cycle begins.

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol
How can you bh when we agree wink

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol
How can you bh when we agree wink
This is PH!

bhing matters!

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol
How can you bh when we agree wink
This is PH!

bhing matters!
fk off, tosser.....

Is that better?

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol
How can you bh when we agree wink
This is PH!

bhing matters!
fk off, tosser.....

Is that better?
Yes, thanks...

M-J-B

15,007 posts

252 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
Shaid GTB said:
M-J-B said:
You are a Muslim and British and proud of it.

I am pleased for you and you are part of 'us' not 'you'

Relax, we are your friends wink
Oh, okay that threw me a little... well thanks thumbup
I trust you are not taking the piss here!
Nope, i was actually expecting good old fashioned PH bhing session and then you come and be all sensible and realistic...lol
How can you bh when we agree wink
This is PH!

bhing matters!
fk off, tosser.....

Is that better?
Yes, thanks...
Good, you 'us' person biggrin

fluffnik

20,156 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
quotequote all
Shaid GTB said:
Is it not acceptable that one can live in the country, contribute, abide by the laws and repsect those that are present (basically keep your head down and fit it!) without being all patriotic and having feeling British?
Absolutely!

I don't feel at all British despite both sides of my family being entirely from the northern part of the biggest of the British isles for as long as records go back.

Relatives of mine fought, and in some cases died, in the war that gave rise to the symbolic poppies mentioned here.

I have much more respect for those whose lives were sacrificed, on both sides, and their kin than I have contempt for any of the states that did the sacrificing and as such I'd be disinclined to burn a poppy.

I have no real respect for any superstition whether it styles itself the one true religion or not, though I have occasionally feigned it out of politeness, but my contempt for those who proselytize tends to exceed my respect for the often worthy philosophy buried within many religions so I can see circumstances where I might burn some tract that had been forced upon me...

The freedom to preach from a text is identical to the freedom to burn it, I would constrain neither.