Israel invaded

[Mrr T]

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. And of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:16

Balance is not a word you seem to understand. Your about as balanced as a weeble who always bends toward I hate Israel.

[JJJ.]

Mrr T said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. And of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:16

Balance is not a word you seem to understand. Your about as balanced as a weeble who always bends toward I hate Israel.

Did I hear a squeak...

[Dagnir]

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. It's a perspective that's totally dishonest in every sense of the word, but as I said already the spotlight is firmly fixed on Israel now, the dishonesty and the murderous actions are plain for all to see and it ain't going down well. Then of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:33

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

[The Three D Mucketeer]

JJJ. said:

So, in my opinion the Hamas attack on Oct7 may benefit the Palestinians long term, the way things are going hopefully it won't be too long.

I'm not sure which Planet you're living on

[JJJ.]

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. It's a perspective that's totally dishonest in every sense of the word, but as I said already the spotlight is firmly fixed on Israel now, the dishonesty and the murderous actions are plain for all to see and it ain't going down well. Then of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:33

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

What can I say other than its just pure rhetoric from you. Another meaningless retort. Unlike myself who was under no obligation to answer your questions but did so from a straightforward, honest, informed and balanced perspective. Of course no pro Israeli or Zionist would understand that, as proved by your retorts.

Remember, Israel is firmly under the microscope and not too soon either! Proof if ever was the 143 nations vote in the UN.

[Mrr T]

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. It's a perspective that's totally dishonest in every sense of the word, but as I said already the spotlight is firmly fixed on Israel now, the dishonesty and the murderous actions are plain for all to see and it ain't going down well. Then of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:33

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

What can I say other than its just pure rhetoric from you. Another meaningless retort. Unlike myself who was under no obligation to answer your questions but did so from a straightforward, honest, informed and balanced perspective. Of course no pro Israeli or Zionist would understand that, as proved by your retorts.

Remember, Israel is firmly under the microscope and not too soon either! Proof if ever was the 143 nations vote in the UN.

You seem to have the understanding, honesty, balance, ability to present a coherent argument and balance of a twelve year old. But guess you might just be twelve.

[JJJ.]

Mrr T said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. It's a perspective that's totally dishonest in every sense of the word, but as I said already the spotlight is firmly fixed on Israel now, the dishonesty and the murderous actions are plain for all to see and it ain't going down well. Then of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:33

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

What can I say other than its just pure rhetoric from you. Another meaningless retort. Unlike myself who was under no obligation to answer your questions but did so from a straightforward, honest, informed and balanced perspective. Of course no pro Israeli or Zionist would understand that, as proved by your retorts.

Remember, Israel is firmly under the microscope and not too soon either! Proof if ever was the 143 nations vote in the UN.

You seem to have the understanding, honesty, balance, ability to present a coherent argument and balance of a twelve year old. But guess you might just be twelve.

The geriatric has squeaked again...

[Mojooo]

Most non Jewish Israel supporters are just anti Islamic anyway - Laurence Fox and the like

[Mrr T]

JJJ. said:

Mrr T said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

Dagnir said:

JJJ. said:

How considerate of you think of me!

I've never condemned any Palestinians, never will or it's very unlikely to happen, just couldn't image condemning the oppressed. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, inm
The World's eyes are firmly fixed on the Palestinian situation and how Israel has reacted and will react going forward.

You find it tricky to condemn a murderous, Islamic terrorist group?

And no condemnation of the Palestinians that support them?







I'm stunned....stunned I tell thee......no.....REALLY.


Not that it wasn't already obvious but at least you've finally shown your true colours, I suppose.

Honestly, I don't even think a stun gun would have any effect on you, you're stunned because I gave an honest and balanced reply which obviously is well over your head! Well, no it probably isn't, it's just that you're so blinkered and bias you're simply unwilling to look at the whole situation in its entirety. Just viewing everything from an Israeli perspective which is the real problem when it comes to the Palestinians and their enforced situation for decades. It's a perspective that's totally dishonest in every sense of the word, but as I said already the spotlight is firmly fixed on Israel now, the dishonesty and the murderous actions are plain for all to see and it ain't going down well. Then of course having to deal with the likes of myself who has no skin in the game really does unsettle the likes of you.

Oh, yeah sorry didn't answer you question on Palestinian support for Hamas. No, I can't blame them for supporting Hamas (a most natural reaction), as everyday goes by with more indiscriminate attacks on Gaza and the West Bank by Israel it's automatic recruitment for Hamas or any group that will fight back at Israel.

Edited by JJJ. on Saturday 11th May 18:33

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

What can I say other than its just pure rhetoric from you. Another meaningless retort. Unlike myself who was under no obligation to answer your questions but did so from a straightforward, honest, informed and balanced perspective. Of course no pro Israeli or Zionist would understand that, as proved by your retorts.

Remember, Israel is firmly under the microscope and not too soon either! Proof if ever was the 143 nations vote in the UN.

You seem to have the understanding, honesty, balance, ability to present a coherent argument and balance of a twelve year old. But guess you might just be twelve.

The geriatric has squeaked again...

So yes you may not even have the intellectual ability of a twelve year old.

[Panamax]

Dagnir said:

I was bored with your (J.J.J.) constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue...

I don't think you've got that quite right,

• Mass protests around the globe,
• USA says Israel has probably breached international humanitarian law.

The blind and fanatical appear to be those who think Israel's campaign is all going just fine.

Some may have noted USA raising the same point that I've raised in this thread. If/when Israel carries out its final assault on Rafah and discovers that after slaughtering tens of thousands of civilians it still hasn't managed to destroy Hamas - what next? Netanyahu and his crew have backed themselves into a tight corner and simply "killing more people" will not be the solution.

[djc206]

Oliver Hardy said:

djc206 said:

Oliver Hardy said:

Is there any proof she was murdered?

Are you just as outraged at Iran for example targeting Journalists or any other country, or is it because she died in an operation involving Israelis?

Oh look a squirrel.

The actions of Iran are not relevant to a conversation about the IDF killing journalists and not holding their members to account. Yes the Iranian regime is awful and they murder not just journalists but their own civilians for trivial things like not wearing headscarves but that doesn’t excuse the actions of the IDF so why even bring it up?

It’s this sort of silly defence of the IDF who in this case have failed to adequately prosecute one of their members for an unlawful and unjustified killing that attract the ire of others. Why bother trying to obfuscate? The IDF by virtue of its size and the extent of the actions it’s currently engaged in is bound to have a few bad apples, those bad apples will do bad things, why defend those actions? Why not condemn them as any right thinking human would?

Is there any proof IDF murdered her, journalists do die in war zones.

It is relevant that these outraged at Israel are not bothered when it comes to other non western leaning nations carrying out atrocities, that is why what Iran does is not relevant in your mind.

It’s relevant generally but not to this conversation but nice try. The Iranian regime is fking awful. Nothing about their being awful justifies anything Israel does or doesn’t do. Two very separate things, it’s odd you can’t see that.

She wasn’t in a war zone. She was in the West Bank covering an IDF raid on a refugee camp. Whoever it was who fired the shots targeted a group of journalists wearing appropriate gear. Proof, no, we’ll never get that because there wasn’t a transparent investigation, evidence aplenty though.

Here’s CNN’s take:

But an investigation by CNN offers new evidence — including two videos of the scene of the shooting — that there was no active combat, nor any Palestinian militants, near Abu Akleh in the moments leading up to her death. Videos obtained by CNN, corroborated by testimony from eight eyewitnesses, an audio forensic analyst and an explosive weapons expert, suggest that Abu Akleh was shot dead in a targeted attack by Israeli forces.

Weird hill to die on. Just accept the IDF get it wrong from time to time, they’ve as good as admitted it in this case.

[911hope]

The Three D Mucketeer said:

Hamas murdered 1.139 victims on the 7th October .Why doesn't Hamas release the hostages ? Why doesn't the justiciary in Palestine compel Hamas to release the hostages ? Because the people of Palestine have elected a Government without Law and Order .... Sorry

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Saturday 11th May 15:33

Whole picture includes what has happened since.

34000 Palestinians killed, over 70000 injured in Gaza and displacement and attempted starvation of 2 Million Gaza people.

More than 500 Palestinians killed in the west bank and 8000 taken prisoner.

[911hope]

Dagnir said:

Bless you.

You think your transparent word games are so nuanced and balanced they're simply too tricky for me to understand? I don't even know what to say. Your confidence in your intellect is so far off the mark, that in that regard I genuinely pity you.


I was bored with your constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue.


You've now shown your true colours...

Quite a personal attack.
Why take this approach? It doesn't look good at all.

[DeejRC]

911hope said:

The Three D Mucketeer said:

Hamas murdered 1.139 victims on the 7th October .Why doesn't Hamas release the hostages ? Why doesn't the justiciary in Palestine compel Hamas to release the hostages ? Because the people of Palestine have elected a Government without Law and Order .... Sorry

Edited by The Three D Mucketeer on Saturday 11th May 15:33

Whole picture includes what has happened since.

34000 Palestinians killed, over 70000 injured in Gaza and displacement and attempted starvation of 2 Million Gaza people.

More than 500 Palestinians killed in the west bank and 8000 taken prisoner.

And yet some would say that the actions of Hamas have benefited the Palestinians. All I can say to that is:
Dear Hamas…please don’t benefit me!!

If that’s ppls idea of geopolitical help, then I strongly advise you not to join the Samaritans…

[skyrover]

An update revealing the huge tunnel network under Rafah used to smuggle arms, supplies and people.

The cost to build this would have been eye watering. Any guesses where the money came from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKhsS9muUc

[andymadmak]

JJJ. said:

. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case in my eyes. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, in my opinion the Hamas attack on Oct7 may benefit the Palestinians long term, the way things are going hopefully it won't be too long.

The problem with this part of your post is that it underscores your double standards. You attack anyone who does not criticise the IDF for the egregious things that it does as part of its wider operations, but seemingly it’s difficult for you to level any criticism against Hamas, regardless of the level of barbarism that it sinks to.
You see the Oct 7th attack not in terms of the human suffering involved for the innocent Israelis slaughtered and raped and maimed on that day but instead as a potential political benefit to Palestinians. Are Israelis not humans too in your eyes? Are they not worthy of your sympathy or compassion?
Surely, if you were genuinely concerned about human suffering you would be able to condemn that attack AND what you see as violations of international law by the IDF? Most people, even if they lean to either side in terms of support can find it within themselves to recognise and condemn barbarity when they see it from either side. You apparently cannot. You might want to reflect on that.
Lastly, we will never know what the future would have held had Arafat accepted the Clinton peace deal. Almost 25 years later we may have been looking at a genuine long term peace in the region, a prosperous Palestinian state, and no Netanyahu at the helm of Israel or we could have been looking at a similar situation to what we have today. We just don’t know for sure.

[Mrr T]

Panamax said:

Dagnir said:

I was bored with your (J.J.J.) constant propaganda and wanted to make sure everybody knew how blind and fanatical you were on this issue...

I don't think you've got that quite right,

• Mass protests around the globe,
• USA says Israel has probably breached international humanitarian law.

The blind and fanatical appear to be those who think Israel's campaign is all going just fine.

Some may have noted USA raising the same point that I've raised in this thread. If/when Israel carries out its final assault on Rafah and discovers that after slaughtering tens of thousands of civilians it still hasn't managed to destroy Hamas - what next? Netanyahu and his crew have backed themselves into a tight corner and simply "killing more people" will not be the solution.

A few protests in a few countries really is worth nothing. What does matter is that with the exception of Turkey most of the Arab world has sat on there hands. The fact is Iran and Hamas do not have much support.

The US said Israel may have breached international law but have no evidence.

As for the military campaign. Before the ground campaign most military commentators predicted serious problems for the IDF. Hamas promised to fight building to building. None of that happened. The IDF took the targets quickly and with limited casualties. From a purely military perspective the campaign has gone well.

Can Israel destroy Hamas we will know in the course. Let's hope so. What has been destroyed is any myth Hamas where a fearsome fighting force.

What really matters is what happens next. I am concerned that Netanyahu does not really have a plan. Let's hope this is his political end.

[JJJ.]

andymadmak said:

JJJ. said:

. As for Hamas, difficult one, not my idea of freedom fighters and being backed by Iran certainly doesn't help their case in my eyes. But, and I feel this is important without Hamas the plight of the Palestinians would not be a major international issue as it is today and the massive condemnation of Israel for obvious reasons would not have occured. So, in my opinion the Hamas attack on Oct7 may benefit the Palestinians long term, the way things are going hopefully it won't be too long.

The problem with this part of your post is that it underscores your double standards..... You might want to reflect on that.

Double standards? There's no standards when it comes to Israeli policy, that's as clear as day. Standards? You're a comedian.

You might want to reflect on the untold suffering the Palestinians have been subjected to at the hands of the Israeli's even since 1948 which include death, destruction, evictions, mass imprisonment, land theft, apartheid and genocide.

The audacity of you to criticize and take issue with anybody that supports the Palestinians over the Israelis. You're in cloud cuckoo land.

Edited by JJJ. on Sunday 12th May 11:18

[DeejRC]

Untold? I think we can safely say the Palestinians have been a much advertised cause celebre for decades. We have all been made well aware of their plight for a long time.

[andymadmak]

JJJ. said:

The audacity of you to criticize and take issue with anybody that supports the Palestinians over the Israelis. You're in cloud cuckoo land.

]

Don’t think I’ll be taking seriously criticism from someone who thinks Hamas is a good thing for Palestinians and who resolutely refuses to recognise the suffering on both sides. And you essentially criticise people for being tribal when it’s obvious that you’re amongst the most tribal on here.