Cameron - crackdown on booze abuse

[Apache]

that's it, I'm outta here

[superkartracer]

But had they NOT been pissed/stoned then they would not have died

[Marf]

superkartracer said:

But had they NOT been pissed/stoned then they would not have died

Indeed, which is why it was a contributory factor and not the toxicity which killed them.

[superkartracer]

But if the toxicity had no effect then no death would have occurred

So it clearly is toxic and aids death

[Marf]

If you say so SKR, I'm gonna follow Apache out the door

[superkartracer]

fking pot heads

[Sump Scraper]

Marf said:

voyds9 said:

Sump Scraper said:

Nobody has ever died from smoking cannabis so I don't know where your 10 per year figure comes from?

http://www.drugscope.org.uk/resources/faqs/faqpages/how-many-people-die-from-drugs

Have a look at table 2 .

It seems to depend on how you define died from, if you just include smoking it then probably no one has, if you include the other effects (depression, car accidents whilst driving under influence etc) then a few do.

Indeed. "Died from" to me means the drug's toxicity caused the death(something that is impossible with cannabis). If you died as a result of a car crash from being stoned, then that would not be a "died from" example, merely that being stoned was a contributory factor to the accident happening.

Again a quote taken from the drugscope link......

"No differentiation is made as to whether the underlying cause of death was drug dependence, accidental poisoning/overdose, related to the drug use or whether one or more drug was implicated - resulting possibly in some double-counting."

Not very scientific is it?

I fully agree with what marf said, it was the car crash that killed the person not the cannabis.
So if i go mountain biking and drink a can of redbull then have an accident,may be even kill myself, should we blame the redbull for the accident/death?
Do you see how daft your argument seems?
Can you show me conclusive evidence of one cannabis death due to the toxicity of cannabis?

[Sump Scraper]

superkartracer said:

fking pot heads

Just to get this thread back on topic......

fking piss heads

[superkartracer]

Sump Scraper said:

Can you show me conclusive evidence of one cannabis death?

www.tokeofthetown.com%2F2011%2F12%2Flaundry_operator_sentenced_to_death_for_marijuana.php&ei=ajs-T93WGJTG8QOLotC1CA&usg=AFQjCNHkCfgOrUZ5JwH39XaifESAp9tzmw

[Sump Scraper]

superkartracer said:

Sump Scraper said:

Can you show me conclusive evidence of one cannabis death?

www.tokeofthetown.com%2F2011%2F12%2Flaundry_operator_sentenced_to_death_for_marijuana.php&ei=ajs-T93WGJTG8QOLotC1CA&usg=AFQjCNHkCfgOrUZ5JwH39XaifESAp9tzmw

Your link doesn't work.
You also edited my post,
What I asked was "Can you show me conclusive evidence of one cannabis death due to the toxicity of cannabis?"

[cazzer]

Einion Yrth said:

cazzer said:

Bitter? Me? Very.

As well as incapable of reading comprehension it would seem.
Short sighted and stupid, I actually miss smokey pubs despite having given up years go, but it's much easier for you to generalise and lump us all together. Pathetic and small minded.

Yes sorry. I would rather it wasn't you I was venting at. But the usual knobheads haven't surfaced.

I do acknowledge your tolerance and fairness.

It's the other cocks that wind me up.

[fido]

A bit late on this thread .. but it's a terrible way to win over the Scottish vote IMO.

[Ozzie Osmond]

Sump Scraper said:

Can you show me conclusive evidence of.........

As soon as you say that you expose the fundamental weakness of your position.

Can you show me conclusive evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow?

[Sump Scraper]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Sump Scraper said:

Can you show me conclusive evidence of.........

As soon as you say that you expose the fundamental weakness of your position.

Can you show me conclusive evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow?

There is no fundamental weakness of my position as you put it.
I was merely asking for proof that cannabis has killed people purely from the toxicity of it.
If it was as bad and nasty that it is portrayed as being,there should be loads of conclusive evidence/proof that it kills,plenty alcohol/tobacco deaths get reported,none from cannabis though.

Stick your head out the window around 07:10am(presuming your in the UK),you'll see the sun rise, I'll even put money on it I'm that confident.