Miliband in tax hypocrisy shocker....

[sidicks]

Surprised that no-one has posted this yet:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093272/21...


Sidicks

[Mojooo]

Doesnt say anywhere in the report that DM was pushing for the law to be changed though does it?!

[davepoth]

And seriously, what sort of mug is going to needlessly pay thousands of pounds extra to the Exchequer if they don't have to? If the government don't think it's worth closing the loophole that's their problem, and at least everyone knows about it now so they can all use it if they like.

[sidicks]

davepoth said:

And seriously, what sort of mug is going to needlessly pay thousands of pounds extra to the Exchequer if they don't have to? If the government don't think it's worth closing the loophole that's their problem, and at least everyone knows about it now so they can all use it if they like.

Apart from the fact that most high earners (e.g. the despised bankers) will be on PAYE so cannot use it!

Sidick

[mrmr96]

Mojooo said:

Doesnt say anywhere in the report that DM was pushing for the law to be changed though does it?!

What relevance does that have? It's not a story about their views, it's a story about his views and his hiporcacy.

[Mojooo]

I am not sure what his views are?

Just because you are with the Labour party doesn't mean you share the same exact views as the partty line.

If he had personally made comments that he wanted this loophole clsoed then I would hapilly call him a hypocrite.

I am aware that if he was still in office it might have been a bandwagon he would have jumped on and called for the so called loophole to be closed but as he doesnt appear to have made any direct comments I am not sure you can directly call him an out an out hypocrite on this point.

[Kudos]

The actual story here is that someone paid him £21k for a days work. Some people are worth it and deserve it, but who is he?

[mrmr96]

Mojooo said:

I am not sure what his views are?

Just because you are with the Labour party doesn't mean you share the same exact views as the partty line.

If he had personally made comments that he wanted this loophole clsoed then I would hapilly call him a hypocrite.

I am aware that if he was still in office it might have been a bandwagon he would have jumped on and called for the so called loophole to be closed but as he doesnt appear to have made any direct comments I am not sure you can directly call him an out an out hypocrite on this point.

Which was do you think he would have voted on it? With his "personal view" or with his "go with the herd to keep myself in a job and my nose in a trough"? Hey, how about with his constituents view? Nah, too daft.

[Mojooo]

mrmr96 said:

Which was do you think he would have voted on it? With his personal view or with his "go with the herd to keep myself in a job and my nose in a trough"?

Probably voted for it - but I am not judging him on something he hasn't even done yet.

[s3fella]

Who would ppay £21k for that fkwitt to do anything? Even if he was a fking Alchemist, he wouldn't be worth more than £30 a day.

[turbobloke]

Mojooo said:

mrmr96 said:

Which way do you think he would have voted on it? With his personal view or with his "go with the herd to keep myself in a job and my nose in a trough"?

Probably voted for it - but I am not judging him on something he hasn't even done yet.

He has form, maybe he'll use the incompetence defence again.

http://reactionarytimes.co.uk/?p=1305

Either way as he's a good and faithful socialist, and they're all in it together, it's worth a bit of condemnation for the collective hypocrisy so typical of the envyist left caught with a snout in the trough. Remember Mr Speaker Gorbals Mick: "I didn't come into politics not to take what's owed to me"

At least those of us who argue that the lawful amount of tax is sufficient are immune.

[Victor McDade]

s3fella said:

Who would ppay £21k for that fkwitt to do anything? Even if he was a fking Alchemist, he wouldn't be worth more than £30 a day.

Like Blair and his £12 million a year, this is probably payment for work already done whilst they were in government. A phone call here and there, doing a favour in diplomatic circles etc. Then at the end of it all create a few non jobs and pay over the odds for their services. This kind of money is peanuts to these Arab nations.

[elster]

Mojooo said:

I am not sure what his views are?

Just because you are with the Labour party doesn't mean you share the same exact views as the partty line.

If he had personally made comments that he wanted this loophole clsoed then I would hapilly call him a hypocrite.

I am aware that if he was still in office it might have been a bandwagon he would have jumped on and called for the so called loophole to be closed but as he doesnt appear to have made any direct comments I am not sure you can directly call him an out an out hypocrite on this point.

Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

He has done nothing wrong, a loophole exists and he used it. So what?

[sidicks]

So you honestly can't see any hypocrisy......????


Labour manifesto 1997:
"Just as we owe it to the taxpayer to crack down on tax avoidance..."

Labour manifesto 2001:
"We will continue to tackle tax avoidance...."

Labour manifesto 2010:
"In all sectors the law must be upheld, properly enforcing safety and employment rights, and tackling tax avoidance."
"Further action will be taken to strengthen developing countries’ tax systems, reduce tax evasion, improve reporting, and crack down on tax havens."

[mrmr96]

elster said:

He has done nothing wrong, a loophole exists and he used it. So what?

No, you've missed the point. What he has done is LEGAL but it is also HYPOCRITICAL. That's where the problem lies.

[elster]

mrmr96 said:

elster said:

He has done nothing wrong, a loophole exists and he used it. So what?

No, you've missed the point. What he has done is LEGAL but it is also HYPOCRITICAL. That's where the problem lies.

No it isn't hypocritical. He didn't work in the treasury when it was suggested.

[sidicks]

elster said:

No it isn't hypocritical. He didn't work in the treasury when it was suggested.

Why are you trying to defend the indefensible...?

[elster]

sidicks said:

elster said:

No it isn't hypocritical. He didn't work in the treasury when it was suggested.

Why are you trying to defend the indefensible...?

How is it indefensible? Just because I am not jumping on your bandwagon saying he should be hung drawn and quartered?

He legally paid himself and his wife out of the company funds, both are partners of the business.

David Miliband has never said anything about the issue. Or are you under the assumption that if someone joins a party they should all play follow my leader, that rules out a free vote in parliament then.

The fact is he has done nothing wrong, simple as that. If he had worked on the policy and said how in favour he was, then yes. He hasn't though.

The only things an MP stands on is the manifesto they get elected on, outside of this there is usually room for a free vote and to represent their personal views. Not be a drone.

[stevejh]

Good for him for using a legal loophole to avoid tax - I've no problem with that. If I earned £21k a day I would expect my advisers to make sure I was legally paying as little tax as possible.

My problem is that he is a member of a party that spends most of it's time slagging off people who earn a lot less than Milliband does who are avoiding paying tax. It seems that as soon as they start earning big money (which they seem to do quite readily once out of power) then all their socialist principles get put away in a cupboard only to be dusted off when they are asked to appear on Question Time or Newsnight or some other programme where they're expected to fly the red flag.

[MartyPubes]

sidicks said:

Why are you trying to defend the indefensible...?

Call this a hunch but I think you might have voted Conservative.