Musings on Civil War

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cazzer

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249 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Just a bit of random musing...

It seems, when you look at stable democracies, most have been through some sort of civil war/revolution in their past.
England, America, France, Spain etc.

Now it would appear that you aren't allowed to have a civil war without the UN or others poking their nose in and trying to stop it.

Is a civil war a phase a country has to go through to ultimately become a democracy?

Should we just let syria/lybia/afghanistan just get on with it?

Jasandjules

70,007 posts

230 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I don't think it is our right to tell other nations how to run themselves. We are far from perfect.

Murph7355

37,818 posts

257 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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cazzer said:
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Is a civil war a phase a country has to go through to ultimately become a democracy?...
Probably not.

cazzer said:
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Should we just let syria/lybia/afghanistan just get on with it?
Probably.

steviegunn

1,417 posts

185 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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cazzer said:
Just a bit of random musing...

It seems, when you look at stable democracies, most have been through some sort of civil war/revolution in their past.
England, America, France, Spain etc.

Now it would appear that you aren't allowed to have a civil war without the UN or others poking their nose in and trying to stop it.

Is a civil war a phase a country has to go through to ultimately become a democracy?

Should we just let syria/lybia/afghanistan just get on with it?
There was quite a lot of nose poking in the previous civil wars you mentioned as well, it was a lot more direct nose poking than the UN is ever likely to do (think Condor Legions in Spain).

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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"Back in the day" countries had far fewer scruples as regards regime change.

Jasandjules

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230 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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davepoth said:
"Back in the day" countries had far fewer scruples as regards regime change.
Do you think there are more scruples these days!!??

BruceV8

3,325 posts

248 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Before modern technology a civil war somewhere didn't have much in the way of worldwide ramifications, unless it directly affected the trade and/or prestige of one of the great empires. If it did, stand by for some serious nose poking with troops and ships.

cazzer

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8,883 posts

249 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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Yeah maybe....but taking sides is one thing.

Standing in the middle saying now stop that...behave

Thinks never seem to resolve.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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I sometimes thing the same about industrial revolutions.
The west has done it's smokey period, and has decided no one else is allowed to have one now either.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Monday 12th March 2012
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cazzer said:
Just a bit of random musing...
..Should we just let syria/lybia/afghanistan just get on with it?
Yes, Syria, Libya are perfect examples. Iraq now dominated by the Shias.

Do third parties get involved with a civil war in a poor country more than in rich countries?