Man Clung To Bonnet After Woman Reverses Into His Shop
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2144388/Ca...
There is the daily wail link, reading the opening statement would make you think that it was the shop owners fault that he got taken for a ride on the womans car bonnet at speed.
The woman Reversed into his shop and he then runs out as she is about to drive away. She shouts abuse at him as he tells her she is not fit to drive, then sets off with him on the bonnet.
Miss McGuigan was due to stand trial for causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but the prosecution accepted her plea that she didn’t intend to injury Mr Webster and she will now be sentenced at the court next month.
So she will only be charged for dangerous driving.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2AAvw1lwyQ[url] Full video on North Yorkshire Police Youtube
There is the daily wail link, reading the opening statement would make you think that it was the shop owners fault that he got taken for a ride on the womans car bonnet at speed.
The woman Reversed into his shop and he then runs out as she is about to drive away. She shouts abuse at him as he tells her she is not fit to drive, then sets off with him on the bonnet.
Miss McGuigan was due to stand trial for causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but the prosecution accepted her plea that she didn’t intend to injury Mr Webster and she will now be sentenced at the court next month.
So she will only be charged for dangerous driving.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2AAvw1lwyQ[url] Full video on North Yorkshire Police Youtube
He was stood infront of the car while it was stationary.
She drove into him on purpose knowing he was there.
If I was in charge of the CPS I would charge her with attempted murder. After all how often do we get told cars are lethal weapons if you are doing 1mph over the limit.
Elster why on earth do you think its his fault? if he ran out while she was moving and she hit him by accident then maybe I could see that but she came to a stop knew he was there then drove through him.
She drove into him on purpose knowing he was there.
If I was in charge of the CPS I would charge her with attempted murder. After all how often do we get told cars are lethal weapons if you are doing 1mph over the limit.
Elster why on earth do you think its his fault? if he ran out while she was moving and she hit him by accident then maybe I could see that but she came to a stop knew he was there then drove through him.
Pesty said:
Elster why on earth do you think its his fault? if he ran out while she was moving and she hit him by accident then maybe I could see that but she came to a stop knew he was there then drove through him.
He doesn't. He's commenting on the fact the Daily Wail have sexed up the story so it reads that way. Daily Wail said:
What started out as a routine visit to her local antique store spiralled into a disaster for one art lover.
Mandy McGuigan, from Pendle, Lancashire had made the short journey to Heathcote Antiques, in Yorkshire Dales, in order to sell a limited edition oil painting.
But after failing to persuade the owner to purchase the piece, she drove off... with the manager clinging to her car bonnet.
Mandy McGuigan, from Pendle, Lancashire had made the short journey to Heathcote Antiques, in Yorkshire Dales, in order to sell a limited edition oil painting.
But after failing to persuade the owner to purchase the piece, she drove off... with the manager clinging to her car bonnet.
Oh and loving the comments... Muppets.
random no 1 said:
The man is a complete fool. He had no right to obstuct her. He should be prosecuted for threatening behaviour
random no 2 said:
Just who the hell does he think he is, standing in that woman's way like that? I don't blame her for driving off, out of sheer frustration. He could easily have got out of the way/jumped off, but chose to cling on to the bonnet. Serves him right if he got injured. IMO he should be the one charged.
Saw this and found it relevant.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
Mental how some minds works- she drove through a security guard, was trying to shake him off, but "had no choice but to stop" at a Red Light.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-cent...
Mental how some minds works- she drove through a security guard, was trying to shake him off, but "had no choice but to stop" at a Red Light.
Miss McGuigan was due to stand trial for causing grievous bodily harm with intent, but the prosecution accepted her plea that she didn’t intend to injury Mr Webster and she will now be sentenced at the court next month.
So she will only be charged for dangerous driving.
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Er.....no
''McGuigan, pleaded guilty to charges of GBH, dangerous driving and failing to stop after an accident after she drove the wrong way up a street and through a red light with Simon Webster gripping onto her car.''
It was the intent charge that she denied. She has pleaded guilty to the other charges.
Judge said she had made progress before she came to trial.
No idea what that means maybe she attended anger management course or something.
Still think driving at somebody in a car deliberately should be attempted murder and I also think had I done that i would see sent down.
edit apparently she was on drugs so its all ok then
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163268/An...
No idea what that means maybe she attended anger management course or something.
Still think driving at somebody in a car deliberately should be attempted murder and I also think had I done that i would see sent down.
edit apparently she was on drugs so its all ok then
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163268/An...
Edited by Pesty on Friday 22 June 18:30
Pesty said:
If I was in charge of the CPS I would charge her with attempted murder.
If you were in charge of the CPS you'd know that to convict someone of attempted murder you have to prove they had a clear intention to kill and nothing less. Being stupid or reckless, or only intending to cause injury, isn't enough. 
She drove a car at a man.
A car is a lethal weapon
when I'm in charge that would be attempted murder.
if the rules state otherwise i would change them
weather she meant to kill him or not she could have done.
If I shot you in the leg and ran off expecting you to live and you bled to death I'm sure your family would be happy with my explanation that i never meant to kill you because if i did i would have shot you in the head.
or hit you on the head with a bat expecting you to be stunned etc etc
b
h should be in gaol. learning that what she did was wrong she is sleeping in her own bed with a big smile on her face.
fed up of people doing what they want harming innocent people and getting fk all punishment.
A car is a lethal weapon
when I'm in charge that would be attempted murder.
if the rules state otherwise i would change them
weather she meant to kill him or not she could have done.
If I shot you in the leg and ran off expecting you to live and you bled to death I'm sure your family would be happy with my explanation that i never meant to kill you because if i did i would have shot you in the head.
or hit you on the head with a bat expecting you to be stunned etc etc
b
h should be in gaol. learning that what she did was wrong she is sleeping in her own bed with a big smile on her face.fed up of people doing what they want harming innocent people and getting f
k all punishment.Edited by Pesty on Friday 22 June 19:44
Pesty said:
She drove a car at a man.
A car is a lethal weapon
when I'm in charge that would be attempted murder.
if the rules state otherwise i would change them
weather she meant to kill him or not she could have done.
If I shot you in the leg and ran off expecting you to live and you bled to death I'm sure your family would be happy with my explanation that i never meant to kill you because if i did i would have shot you in the head.
or hit you on the head with a bat expecting you to be stunned etc etc
bh should be in gaol. learning that what she did was wrong she is sleeping in her own bed with a big smile on her face.
fed up of people doing what they want harming innocent people and getting fk all punishment.
There's the offence of GBH with intent to cover that, which is what she was charged with. Attempt murder would be the wrong offence to charge with. Maximum sentence for both is the same.A car is a lethal weapon
when I'm in charge that would be attempted murder.
if the rules state otherwise i would change them
weather she meant to kill him or not she could have done.
If I shot you in the leg and ran off expecting you to live and you bled to death I'm sure your family would be happy with my explanation that i never meant to kill you because if i did i would have shot you in the head.
or hit you on the head with a bat expecting you to be stunned etc etc
b
h should be in gaol. learning that what she did was wrong she is sleeping in her own bed with a big smile on her face.fed up of people doing what they want harming innocent people and getting f
k all punishment.Edited by Pesty on Friday 22 June 19:44
If you shot me in the leg then it's quite possible you'd be charged with GBH with intent and not attempted murder. If you shot me in the head and I survived, attempt murder would be more appropriate.
Pesty said:
I don't doubt that is how the law stands now.
So do you think 2 years suspended was appropriate so such a dangerous life threatening GBH case?
She wasn't even convicted of the GBH with intent though, only straight GBH, which is a much lesser offence. So do you think 2 years suspended was appropriate so such a dangerous life threatening GBH case?
So no, I don't think the sentence was adequate, but then they rarely are these days.
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