Union hypocrisy, again...

[Siko]

Saw this today from the TUC conference about the Olympics and the government, which made me laugh.....

Some dinosaur: "Those summer weeks were a time when we really were all in it together. Not because we were told to be. But because we wanted to be. Athletes, workers, volunteers, spectators, residents, communities - all pulling together."

Yes, all pulling together after you held us to ransom by repeatedly threatening to strike and getting "bonuses" for your workers "exta duties".....hypocrites....

[muffinmenace]

I saw him on BBC Breakfast too, he didn't answer the questions put to him which would be at the back of any rational mind. "Why are you opposed to keeping wages relevant to a local level across the country?" I never found out why.

[turbobloke]

Union bosses are threatening the first general strike in 86 years (since 1926), apparently these ever-helpful folks are to hold a debate on bringing the country to a halt.

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Far too many dinosaurs remain in public sector unions, where's a political comet impact when it's most needed.

[thinfourth2]

turbobloke said:

Union bosses are threatening the first general strike in 86 years (since 1926), apparently these ever-helpful folks are to hold a debate on bringing the country to a halt.

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Far too many dinosaurs remain in public sector unions, where's a political comet impact when it's most needed.

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

[turbobloke]

thinfourth2 said:

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

I think I can see what you mean but quality of life for many people will be adversely affected if the dinosaurs get their way. Not sure how people in the private sector stop being people for the purpose of a general strike?

[DJRC]

turbobloke said:

thinfourth2 said:

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

I think I can see what you mean but quality of life for many people will be adversely affected if the dinosaurs get their way. Not sure how people in the private sector stop being people for the purpose of a general strike?

What would we notice exactly?

[Zaxxon]

I heard this fool on Radio 4. What a nasty, small minded hypocrite.

I hope they do strike as the country will hardly stumble and most of us won't give a damn. Then they will see their power shrink.

[Starfighter]

thinfourth2 said:

turbobloke said:

Union bosses are threatening the first general strike in 86 years (since 1926), apparently these ever-helpful folks are to hold a debate on bringing the country to a halt.

Click

Far too many dinosaurs remain in public sector unions, where's a political comet impact when it's most needed.

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

yeah, we will.

Schools out so we have to take time off work to look after the kids. Screwed up rubbish collections for the rest of the week until the backlog is sorted on Saturday with double bubble and a day off in lieu. Trains / tube and much of the transport system either stopped or unusable.

[thinfourth2]

Starfighter said:

yeah, we will.

Schools out so we have to take time off work to look after the kids. Screwed up rubbish collections for the rest of the week until the backlog is sorted on Saturday with double bubble and a day off in lieu. Trains / tube and much of the transport system either stopped or unusable.

Don't have kids
Don't have public transport
I can burn my rubbish

What strike?

[fido]

It's about time for a remake of Carry On At Your Convenience .. then again the last one made a loss ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_at_Your_Conv...

[turbobloke]

DJRC said:

turbobloke said:

thinfourth2 said:

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

I think I can see what you mean but quality of life for many people will be adversely affected if the dinosaurs get their way. Not sure how people in the private sector stop being people for the purpose of a general strike?

What would we notice exactly?

From a general strike? In detail it would depend on precisely how widespread the support was and how long it lasted but some people would be likely to notice even longer delays in entering or leaving the country, difficulty in moving around the capital in terms of bus and tube services, transport would probably be hit on a wider basis, many schools would be closed, non-emergency treatment in hospitals would be cancelled, there would be no postal services, there could well be a build-up of uncollected rubbish in cities and town centres with more vermin as a result, and firefighters may be involved so emergency calls could go unanswered in the usual sense...all told, with sufficient support it would be very noticeable. A common definition of something recognised as a general strike involves the concept of 'critical mass' so by definition it would be noticeable at that level.

[anonymous-user]

turbobloke said:

DJRC said:

turbobloke said:

thinfourth2 said:

Carry on

The private sector won't actually notice

I think I can see what you mean but quality of life for many people will be adversely affected if the dinosaurs get their way. Not sure how people in the private sector stop being people for the purpose of a general strike?

What would we notice exactly?

From a general strike? In detail it would depend on precisely how widespread the support was and how long it lasted but some people would be likely to notice even longer delays in entering or leaving the country, difficulty in moving around the capital in terms of bus and tube services, transport would probably be hit on a wider basis, many schools would be closed, non-emergency treatment in hospitals would be cancelled, there would be no postal services, there could well be a build-up of uncollected rubbish in cities and town centres with more vermin as a result, and firefighters may be involved so emergency calls could go unanswered in the usual sense...all told, with sufficient support it would be very noticeable. A common definition of something recognised as a general strike involves the concept of 'critical mass' so by definition it would be noticeable at that level.

The key point being how much support the unions will get. Less than 25% of workers are members, though the vast majority of them are PS workers (I wonder why?).

If, as in the past the workers show more sense than their 'leaders', then the effects could well be not too noticeable, though I am sure that some innocents will suffer for the greed of others.

[turbobloke]

Another key point being the realisation of critical mass, as per my post, which takes care of the participation aspect - though I also specifically raised that at the outset.

Anything else I mentioned that didn't get noticed fire away

[Megaflow]

What I want to know is how many of the people that are complaining they have got a wage freeze, got a payrise during 2009 & 2010 when the wheels really fell off the economy?

Most people got a freeze or a cut during that period.

[Six Fiend]

fido said:

It's about time for a remake of Carry On At Your Convenience .. then again the last one made a loss ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carry_On_at_Your_Conv...

I watched that not long ago, still totally bang on!

[plasticpig]

turbobloke said:

Union bosses are threatening the first general strike in 86 years (since 1926), apparently these ever-helpful folks are to hold a debate on bringing the country to a halt.

Click

Far too many dinosaurs remain in public sector unions, where's a political comet impact when it's most needed.

The last one was a dismal failure for the TUC. I cant see one now being anymore successful.

[anonymous-user]

turbobloke said:

Another key point being the realisation of critical mass, as per my post, which takes care of the participation aspect - though I also specifically raised that at the outset.

Anything else I mentioned that didn't get noticed fire away

Well, I did notice it but as this action is as likely to reach critical mass as I am to give birth to the next messiah, I ignored it.

Do you really think the current TUC could raise enough support to make that definition even remotely achievable? Really?

[martin84]

The only good side to these strikes is it really annoys the arch-Tories inhabiting PH.

A small oasis of joy in the day.

[thinfourth2]

martin84 said:

The only good side to these strikes is it really annoys the arch-Tories inhabiting PH.

A small oasis of joy in the day.

Not if we don't notice the strike

[martin84]

thinfourth2 said:

Not if we don't notice the strike

The strike doesn't have to be noticeable or result in anything. The mere fact Union leaders are speaking will enrage PH to comedic levels.