Riots in Stockholm

[Finlandia]

Third night of riots in the suburbs of Stockholm, as a protest against police "brutality" due to shooting a 69 year old man threatening police with a knife/sword.



http://www.thelocal.se/48050/20130522/#.UZx-XPtvnD...

http://rt.com/news/sweden-riots-multiculturalism-n...

[muffinmenace]

RT said:

“Husby residents must get their neighborhood back,” Reinfeldt stressed, speaking of the district, where around 80 percent of about 11,000 residents are first- or second-generation immigrants. This particular district has seen employment increasing and crime falling in the last seven years, Reinfeldt added, speaking of the “right direction” it has been going.

Interesting, we're always told to learn from the Scandinavians on equality. Let's see how it plays out for them.

Edited by muffinmenace on Wednesday 22 May 09:51

[vodkalolly]

They live in their area, and they feel the area is their own. And when the police arrive, they feel they are you intruding into their, sort of, ‘country.’ The police… who work in these areas, there have to be in two cars, one protecting the other. People are trying to maintain buildings, to have security guards, the fire department can’t work, they get attacked by angry immigrant youth that feel like they’re intruding into their own area, even though they’re trying to help,” Abramsson went on to say.

I feel like that in Britain and I was born here, so were my folks and theirs. In fact I can trace my family back to 1600. Maybe its just that governments are universally out of touch in Europe and Scandinavia. Maybe we should all riot.

[Pesty]

Do any of the politicians who let in these immigrants live in that town?

[Finlandia]

It's a very complex situation that will need addressing, but no one seems to even have the guts to start a discussion about the issues. Then all it takes is one event, usually a police presence is enough, to become a riot or worse.

Most of the politicians live in Stockholm, but naturally not in the ghetto suburbs.

[Hoofy]

Finlandia said:

Third night of riots in the suburbs of Stockholm, as a protest against police "brutality" due to shooting a 69 year old man threatening police with a knife/sword.

Maybe it's just me, but if I threatened the police with my knives or swords, I think I'd expect to be shot.

[StevieBee]

Quote from one of the articles:

"I'm scared that it will get worse. It's going to become like France," one Kista resident told the Aftonbladet newspaper.

We accuse countries like the US of being insular but I think we live in our own bubble too and fail to recognise that the issues we have hear are little different anywhere you care to look.

Same st. Different country

[rovermorris999]

Multiculturalism in action unfortunately. Immigration is fine if the immigrants assimilate to a reasonable degree and accept the mores of the host country but too many seem to 'self-ghetto-ise' if you'll forgive the made-up word.

[FiF]

This in a country which as far as I am concerned goes out of it's way to help incomers to integrate.

[IainT]

FiF said:

This in a country which as far as I am concerned goes out of it's way to help incomers to integrate.

Father in Law is a, now retired, working class Swede and his view and that of his neighbours is that the immigrants are not doing their duty to integrate. Not learning Swedish and expecting their cultural values to be upheld above those of Sweden.

It's quite similar to here in many ways but their smaller population seems to make the effects more obvious.

[Mr_B]

Hoofy said:

Finlandia said:

Third night of riots in the suburbs of Stockholm, as a protest against police "brutality" due to shooting a 69 year old man threatening police with a knife/sword.

Maybe it's just me, but if I threatened the police with my knives or swords, I think I'd expect to be shot.

This guy and his subsequent rioters, seem to subscribe to the Mark Duggan school of thought of being free to have a weapon and do whatever the hell you like, and then being the poor victim when you meet armed police.

[FiF]

IainT said:

Father in Law is a, now retired, working class Swede and his view and that of his neighbours is that the immigrants are not doing their duty to integrate. Not learning Swedish and expecting their cultural values to be upheld above those of Sweden.

It's quite similar to here in many ways but their smaller population seems to make the effects more obvious.

Yes, I lived and worked there many years and one could see what was going on. One day walking into the office with a Swedish friend, this in a place over two hours north of Stockholm, and she says, "Some days I feel like a stranger in my own country."

To which I replied, "Yes I know what you mean, but I am a stranger in your country."

She laughed and said "But you are one of us." Didn't really know how to take that, it was meant as a compliment I think, but it could have also been bit racist, maybe.

But as the article in the local says, it's left Swedes born and bred wondering what the hell has hit their nation. OK Finnish gypsies have always been an issue, one wrong look and you get shanked, but recently with asylum seekers, e.g. take Malmo.

Lots of Central European, in particular German, Jews settled there in the 30s. Even 10 years ago violent anti Semitism was evident from the more recent asylum seekers, who also deliberately targeted Swedes. I've heard asylum seekers brag that they target Swedish kids for street robbery them as they don't fight back but just give up their phones at first asking.

[IainT]

FiF said:

She laughed and said "But you are one of us." Didn't really know how to take that, it was meant as a compliment I think, but it could have also been bit racist, maybe.

I suspect she meant that you share the same cultural frame of reference, hopes, dreams and responsibilities.

[Hooli]

Sounds as fked up as here, more proof (if we needed it) that mufti-cluturalism doesn't work.

[Art0ir]

Clearly swivel-eyed loons, the Swedes.

[Finlandia]

IainT said:

FiF said:

This in a country which as far as I am concerned goes out of it's way to help incomers to integrate.

Father in Law is a, now retired, working class Swede and his view and that of his neighbours is that the immigrants are not doing their duty to integrate. Not learning Swedish and expecting their cultural values to be upheld above those of Sweden.

This seems to be one of the issues, another issue is the spending of tax money. A few years ago a considerable amount of tax money was spent to teach immigrant women to ride bicycles, it sticks in the eyes of old generations that their care homes and hospitals are then being closed down due to lack of money.

[AnonSpoilSport]

muffinmenace said:

RT said:

“Husby residents must get their neighborhood back,” Reinfeldt stressed, speaking of the district, where around 80 percent of about 11,000 residents are first- or second-generation immigrants. This particular district has seen employment increasing and crime falling in the last seven years, Reinfeldt added, speaking of the “right direction” it has been going.

Interesting, we're always told to learn from the Scandinavians on equality. Let's see how it plays out for them.

Edited by muffinmenace on Wednesday 22 May 09:51

Husby has been quite notorious - at least in the opinions it has formed, and divided, and its 'architecture'(!) - for a number of years now.

[AnonSpoilSport]

FiF said:

IainT said:

Father in Law is a, now retired, working class Swede and his view and that of his neighbours is that the immigrants are not doing their duty to integrate. Not learning Swedish and expecting their cultural values to be upheld above those of Sweden.

It's quite similar to here in many ways but their smaller population seems to make the effects more obvious.

Yes, I lived and worked there many years and one could see what was going on. One day walking into the office with a Swedish friend, this in a place over two hours north of Stockholm, and she says, "Some days I feel like a stranger in my own country."

To which I replied, "Yes I know what you mean, but I am a stranger in your country."

She laughed and said "But you are one of us." Didn't really know how to take that, it was meant as a compliment I think, but it could have also been bit racist, maybe.

But as the article in the local says, it's left Swedes born and bred wondering what the hell has hit their nation. OK Finnish gypsies have always been an issue, one wrong look and you get shanked, but recently with asylum seekers, e.g. take Malmo.

Lots of Central European, in particular German, Jews settled there in the 30s. Even 10 years ago violent anti Semitism was evident from the more recent asylum seekers, who also deliberately targeted Swedes. I've heard asylum seekers brag that they target Swedish kids for street robbery them as they don't fight back but just give up their phones at first asking.

I have family who are Swedish/in Sweden and noted in a thread a couple of years ago the increasing number of stories of deliberate attacks on white Swedes by immigrants in Malmo, particularly in and around bus stations and rail stations, partly for theft/easy pickings but also for 'fun' etc. as quoted by a good number of the instigators.

And, of course, the obvious backlash and a rise in attacks by Swedes on immigrants, including the well reported shooting spree. Madness.

The attacks on Jews have hit another level and have led a good number to, basically, flee the city.

[Happy82]

Sounds like the underclass of Sweden finding an excuse for violence like the scum here did two years ago.

[grumbledoak]

The history books are full of "rape, burn, and pillage". It seems our short respite (relatively speaking) is over.