Young Couple found dead in car... update.
Discussion
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/young-friends...
Search not working well so cannot find original thread on this sad but quite unusual case.
Anyone else find the comments from the detective as reported here somewhat confusing?
"a gap between exhaust and engine" "compounded by the removal of the catalytic converter designed to remove contaminants".
Surely if the cat was still there, if the "gap" was between exhaust and engine (say at turbo or before the turbo??), they would still have suffered the same fate? Also, the vomit found near house door and outside the car.. that sounds weird.
Still, whole case goes to show how some of these modded cars are just not up to muster.
A sad and seemingly pointless loss of two young lives.
Mods feel free to link to the original post if you can locate it.
Search not working well so cannot find original thread on this sad but quite unusual case.
Anyone else find the comments from the detective as reported here somewhat confusing?
"a gap between exhaust and engine" "compounded by the removal of the catalytic converter designed to remove contaminants".
Surely if the cat was still there, if the "gap" was between exhaust and engine (say at turbo or before the turbo??), they would still have suffered the same fate? Also, the vomit found near house door and outside the car.. that sounds weird.
Still, whole case goes to show how some of these modded cars are just not up to muster.
A sad and seemingly pointless loss of two young lives.
Mods feel free to link to the original post if you can locate it.
they could have been exposed to carbon monoxide poisoning over a period of time, and the car being run in the cold standing for a while might have pushed them over the edge. Cmoxide has similar features to flu, so vomiting might have been seen as being ill, but also delirious so get back in the car.
my understanding the vents in the bonnet caused the leaking gas to pull up and in the cabin intake, basically a chainreaction in errors.
i hope people take heed as bodge jobs can cause issues, people forget the cat is a safety device as well.
my understanding the vents in the bonnet caused the leaking gas to pull up and in the cabin intake, basically a chainreaction in errors.
i hope people take heed as bodge jobs can cause issues, people forget the cat is a safety device as well.
Edited by The Spruce goose on Tuesday 21st March 17:09
What is the reason/answer to the vomit outside the vehicle and outside the front door of his girlfriend?
Exhaust gases made them sick but they returned back inside the car, not realising what had caused it and/or the danger?
But he was a car nut.
Surely he would know that danger, he worked for Ford.
That made me wonder what he did at Ford?
On some reports there is a selfie of the young lad.
Behind him is a hoarding
'Emission Laboratory D.......'
Climate Development Centre'
(is that Dunton or nothing to do with Ford?).
Exhaust gases made them sick but they returned back inside the car, not realising what had caused it and/or the danger?
But he was a car nut.
Surely he would know that danger, he worked for Ford.
That made me wonder what he did at Ford?
On some reports there is a selfie of the young lad.
Behind him is a hoarding
'Emission Laboratory D.......'
Climate Development Centre'
(is that Dunton or nothing to do with Ford?).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC41030...
Effect of exhaust emissions on carbon monoxide levels in employees working at indoor car wash facilities
basically long term can kill, the tipping point being car parked up.
Effect of exhaust emissions on carbon monoxide levels in employees working at indoor car wash facilities
basically long term can kill, the tipping point being car parked up.
Very sad, when I was a kid some bloke and his mistress decided to get busy in some garages that my bedroom overlooked. They died of carbon monoxide poisoning and the next day I was looking out of my window and saw them dragging a body out. A high price to pay for a bit of slap and tickle.
I had a very lucky escape with a 1990 Peugeot 405 GRi, fell asleep on the motorway, hit the rumble strip and eventually rolled the car. Fortunately no injuries. However, I had only owned it for about 3 months.
I figured I could smell exhaust so I took it back to the garage that had previously fitted the exhaust. They tweaked the U bolts and said all was fine.
In my young state of foolishness I believed them, I'm sure it was a leaky exhaust getting into the cab space.
Thankfully didn't die.
I figured I could smell exhaust so I took it back to the garage that had previously fitted the exhaust. They tweaked the U bolts and said all was fine.
In my young state of foolishness I believed them, I'm sure it was a leaky exhaust getting into the cab space.
Thankfully didn't die.
Jakarta said:
I had a very lucky escape with a 1990 Peugeot 405 GRi, fell asleep on the motorway, hit the rumble strip and eventually rolled the car. Fortunately no injuries. However, I had only owned it for about 3 months.
I figured I could smell exhaust so I took it back to the garage that had previously fitted the exhaust. They tweaked the U bolts and said all was fine.
In my young state of foolishness I believed them, I'm sure it was a leaky exhaust getting into the cab space.
Thankfully didn't die.
My old big bumper golf mk2 race car had an issue. I had a headache after each race and could smell some fumes. Turnos out there should have been some rubber flaps in shell behind rear bumper which act like one way valves for vents. They were missing after bodyshop painted it, and it resulted in some fumes being sucking into the car in certain circumstances. But the smell was SO noticeable, it was clear there was a fault but took a while to find it. I figured I could smell exhaust so I took it back to the garage that had previously fitted the exhaust. They tweaked the U bolts and said all was fine.
In my young state of foolishness I believed them, I'm sure it was a leaky exhaust getting into the cab space.
Thankfully didn't die.
Link to the original thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Years ago my car developed a leak from the exhaust manifold and because I had a Monday morning blast from Norwich to Basingstoke really early, the almost irresistible yawning and near sleep around Heathrow I was putting down to the early start, went on for weeks.
By chance I saw some condensation escaping / bubbling form the manifold one day and noticed some studs were loose. Tightened them up and bingo never had the problem again.
CO is a silent and odourless killer, very serious.
By chance I saw some condensation escaping / bubbling form the manifold one day and noticed some studs were loose. Tightened them up and bingo never had the problem again.
CO is a silent and odourless killer, very serious.
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