The PH exit poll

[arp1]

Voted Snp to give Scotland a bigger scottish voice in London as it's been sadly lacking (a Scottish contingent that actually works in scotlands best interests as opposed to the branch office mentality)

[MGJohn]

Ayahuasca said:

I cannot understand the logic of anyone voting UKIP.

UKIP wants out of the EU. For this we need a referendum.

Presumably UKIP supporters want out of the EU.

With the best will in the world, UKIP will not form the next government.

There will only be a EU referendum if the Conservatives win.

Voting for UKIP makes it less likely that the conservatives will win.

Thus voting for UKIP makes it less likely there will be an EU referendum.

Thus voting for UKIP makes no sense.

??

I can understand your failure to understand and at the same time do not see the sense in voting UKIP.

Sure, no way will Nigel F form a Government but if sufficient folks feel and see things the way I do and support the UK Independence Party, this could torpedo the Tories' chances of continuing in No.10. This and results in a worst case scenario with "Working Families" promised the earth by red Ed in situ. Coulkd be the kick up the jacksee to make Dave or his replacement LISTEN.

That would come about because of Desperate Dave's failure to appreciate why folks feel the way they do and are attracted away to vote for UKIP. There's attractions in the UKIP policy span which no doubt has drawn away supporters from both major parties. How do I know this? The finest evidence available. That of my own ears and eyes when talking to other folks, not just members of my own immediate family. Which incidentally, will split our four votes across THREE Parties. See below. Had "Vote Dave" incorporated some of the more salient and Nationwide benefits within the UKIP Policy span in Tory manifesto, he would have been home free. Classic failand no doubt due to his paymasters and other vested interests called the tune.

The four family votes as of today which include two late Changes of mind from UKIP.

1 Labour :~ My older son. Until very recently, would have been for UKIP but works within the Public sector and fears Tory Cuts which his specialised area have already seen. I suspect work colleagues have had a word or two in his shell-like. He is a landlord which will be a heavy cloud over his horizon if Red Ed succeeds.

2 UKIP :~ Me and youngest son ~ who has surprisingly shown a remarkably shrewd appraisal of the way things are. Very pleased to see that and totally without any influence from me.

1 Tory :~ Late change of mind by my wife from UKIP as she is also a Landlord and fears a Red Ed covert agenda for such lowlife. My older son is also a landlord and understands his mother's concerns but will vote labour which he has just confirmed.

A divided family Politically ... maybe but not really divided.

[chrisispringles]

Held my nose and voted labour to keep the Nats out.

[Melman Giraffe]

turbobloke said:

MrRee145 said:

I went Conservative, however like others I would be happy enough with the current coalition

The 1992 exit poll - real thing not internet - suggested a hung parliament, after the closing days of the campaign had put Labour narrowly in the lead.

In the end when votes were cast and counted, Major got 43% of the vote and Labour 35%, giving a clear Conservative majority. Fingers crossed.

As I mentioned earlier I think it will be a Tory landslide. You just need to look at this smug tt to make your mind up



SHUDDER!!!

[Digga]

Interesting trend I've noticed with a few (intelligent and professional) friends is that they are voting Green, more as a protest against the usual suspects than for their overall policies.

[Axionknight]

chrisispringles said:

Held my nose and voted labour to keep the Nats out.

Ouch.

So Sir, would you like us to cutt off your right foot, or the left one?

[Cheese Mechanic]

arp1 said:

Voted Snp to give Scotland a bigger scottish voice in London as it's been sadly lacking (a Scottish contingent that actually works in scotlands best interests as opposed to the branch office mentality)

Basically that means "I voted SNP as I am a parasite who wants to steal more fromm the hated English"

If you do not agree with that, blame the party you voted for, because thats how they come across.

[whoami]

Digga said:

Interesting trend I've noticed with a few (intelligent and professional) friends is that they are voting Green, more as a protest against the usual suspects than for their overall policies.

So, not really that intelligent then?

[arp1]

Cheese Mechanic said:

arp1 said:

Voted Snp to give Scotland a bigger scottish voice in London as it's been sadly lacking (a Scottish contingent that actually works in scotlands best interests as opposed to the branch office mentality)

Basically that means "I voted SNP as I am a parasite who wants to steal more fromm the hated English"

If you do not agree with that, blame the party you voted for, because thats how they come across.

The whole Snp/scotland bashing has really worn thin, and if you cannot see why the Snp is gaining members in droves then you must be blind.

[oyster]

Digga said:

Interesting trend I've noticed with a few (intelligent and professional) friends is that they are voting Green, more as a protest against the usual suspects than for their overall policies.

That's my view too.

I find it ironic that there's a huge debate about not leaving a legacy of debt to our children and grandchildren but so little debate when it comes to leaving a decent planet to live on.

PS. I'm not talking global warming BS before anyone asks.

[simoid]

s2kjock said:

We may share the same constituency, but I decided to grit my teeth and go tactical.

Risky choice though - could end horribly

Maybe - probably similar for every Lab seat in Scotland.

Connarty!

[iphonedyou]

arp1 said:

The whole Snp/scotland bashing has really worn thin, and if you cannot see why the Snp is gaining members in droves then you must be blind.

No, almost everybody can see why they've gained members in droves. It's just a damning indictment of those members' intellect, that's all. Free money is an excellent incentive for economically illiterate voters.

[eatcustard]

arp1 said:

Voted Snp to give Scotland a bigger scottish voice in London as it's been sadly lacking (a Scottish contingent that actually works in scotlands best interests as opposed to the branch office mentality)

Like Blair and Brown

[Digga]

oyster said:

Digga said:

Interesting trend I've noticed with a few (intelligent and professional) friends is that they are voting Green, more as a protest against the usual suspects than for their overall policies.

That's my view too.

I find it ironic that there's a huge debate about not leaving a legacy of debt to our children and grandchildren but so little debate when it comes to leaving a decent planet to live on.

PS. I'm not talking global warming BS before anyone asks.

I have no offspring, never intended to, so am well out of the "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" hysteria zone, but i think we owe it as a responsibility to future generations, just as our ancestors made (often mortal and the WW) sacrifices on our behalf.

whoami said:

So, not really that intelligent then?

Depends whether they thought they would actually win a seat.

[Cheese Mechanic]

arp1 said:

The whole Snp/scotland bashing has really worn thin, and if you cannot see why the Snp is gaining members in droves then you must be blind.

No Scotland bashing at all, just parasites who happen to live there and expect preferential treatment. Nothing thin about facts.

[Silverage]

I'm in one of the safest Tory seats in the country so my vote isn't going to make any difference. Voted LibDem last time (they came 3rd in the end). Went UKIP this time but I'm under no illusions about them doing any good here (they came 4th last time).

[SilverSixer]

MGJohn said:

Coulkd be the kick up the jacksee to make Dave or his replacement LISTEN.

Why should anyone LISTEN to what will likely turn out to be about 10% of the voting public? 90% of us don't want UKIP. Why should you be LISTENed to?

Shouting LISTEN doesn't make you right.

[arp1]

iphonedyou said:

arp1 said:

The whole Snp/scotland bashing has really worn thin, and if you cannot see why the Snp is gaining members in droves then you must be blind.

No, almost everybody can see why they've gained members in droves. It's just a damning indictment of those members' intellect, that's all. Free money is an excellent incentive for economically illiterate voters.

Free money? Care to explain? Scotland puts more in than it gets out and the decisions made locally (i.e. Holyrood) mean that 'free' stuff is paid for via other means in the Scottish budget, so please get off the high horse that Scotland steals England's money etc as it is a complete falsity.

[arp1]

iphonedyou said:

arp1 said:

The whole Snp/scotland bashing has really worn thin, and if you cannot see why the Snp is gaining members in droves then you must be blind.

No, almost everybody can see why they've gained members in droves. It's just a damning indictment of those members' intellect, that's all. Free money is an excellent incentive for economically illiterate voters.

Free money? Care to explain? Scotland puts more in than it gets out and the decisions made locally (i.e. Holyrood) mean that 'free' stuff is paid for via other means in the Scottish budget, so please get off the high horse that Scotland steals England's money etc as it is a complete falsity.

[Puggit]

UKIP - There's no point voting blue or red, it just leads to more of the same with higher taxes and waste for the reds.

There's only one choice for change. I'm vehemently anti-EU, but I'm pro Europe. A trading bloc will do fine, thanks very much. Until I have voted in a referendum on the EU I will continue to vote purply-yellow