OXFORD 'Grooming' Serious Case Review - heads to roll?
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To be published tomorrow morning 11 am. Damning apparently.
So, just like Rotherham, systematic failure after failure. What will happen here in Oxford? Who will resign?
The Council Chief Exec Joanna Simons has at last decided to go, after many calls to step down, the boss of Oxford CC saying the her Chief Exec's job is not needed anymore, so she won't be replaced (why was it needed in the first place then?) ...and she's getting a tidy pay off in the region of 600 grand!
Thames Valley Police Chief Constable, Sara Thornton, who held the reins while all this went on. What's happening to her?
She's decided to stand down too after 14 years here. She's leaving 'with an heavy heart'. Off to her new role in a few weeks time to become Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council (a newly created association replacing the old ACPO).
Someone round here said this week, how widespread is all this grooming?
One answer was 'If you think it's not happening where you are, you're not looking!'
Unbelievable. What have we sunk to?
So, just like Rotherham, systematic failure after failure. What will happen here in Oxford? Who will resign?
The Council Chief Exec Joanna Simons has at last decided to go, after many calls to step down, the boss of Oxford CC saying the her Chief Exec's job is not needed anymore, so she won't be replaced (why was it needed in the first place then?) ...and she's getting a tidy pay off in the region of 600 grand!
Thames Valley Police Chief Constable, Sara Thornton, who held the reins while all this went on. What's happening to her?
She's decided to stand down too after 14 years here. She's leaving 'with an heavy heart'. Off to her new role in a few weeks time to become Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council (a newly created association replacing the old ACPO).
Someone round here said this week, how widespread is all this grooming?
One answer was 'If you think it's not happening where you are, you're not looking!'
Unbelievable. What have we sunk to?
dandarez said:
Thames Valley Police Chief Constable, Sara Thornton, who held the reins while all this went on. What's happening to her?
She's decided to stand down too after 14 years here. She's leaving 'with an heavy heart'. Off to her new role in a few weeks time to become Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council (a newly created association replacing the old ACPO).
Hopefully it'll cause enough of a stink for it not to happen.She's decided to stand down too after 14 years here. She's leaving 'with an heavy heart'. Off to her new role in a few weeks time to become Chair of the National Police Chiefs' Council (a newly created association replacing the old ACPO).
I wonder how it relates to this?:
http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/oxford-cherwell-va...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yLWfMEpFjY
http://www.ukcolumn.org/article/accusations-studen...
Edit: Joanna Simons is common purpose too.
Article said:
Oxford and Cherwell Valley College Head Sally Dicketts and Thames Valley Police Chief Constable Sara Thornton are both connected with the Women’s Leadership Network and political charity Common Purpose.
Why do these people all seem to be common purpose?Edit: Joanna Simons is common purpose too.
Edited by Esseesse on Tuesday 3rd March 00:42
Esseesse said:
Why do these people all seem to be common purpose?
I only heard of them last year. And I chanced upon them while looking for something else.It could be because they get spotted and get sent on courses and told they're 'future leaders' and once they start believing their own hype they think they can't be wrong and can do whatever they want to ensure their progress isn't interrupted?
I've heard Saul Alinsky mentioned twice on Radio 4 in the last week. Perhaps his thoughts on achieving and change and that of Common Purpose are en vogue and the rest of us are behind the curve?
Look at this thread:
http://www.pistonheads.com/Gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
It mentions cuts to West Midlands Police and single crewing.
How much has West Midlands Police spent with Common Purpose?
Common Purpose training helps West Midlands Police deal with the cuts, or helps with management techniques for getting staff to accept being put upon and how to massage the public perception of the the police and their failures?
If Thornton is implicated in that report and she still gets that job it will seem like the Monkey Dust New Truth sketch where bad news is reclassified to good news, because that's what we want to hear.
The bad news is some kids got raped. The good news is it wasn't your kids so you don't have to concern yourself unduly.
kev1974 said:
Rotherham
Rochdale
Oxfordshire
Where's next?
Reports due out next in Newcastle and Halifax but other cases reported up and down the country from Glasgow, Telford, Norfolk down to Tower Hamlets and Bristol.Rochdale
Oxfordshire
Where's next?
The ITV article about Oxford i posted the other day mentioned Thames Valley including Berkshire and Buckinghamshire too.
It seems to be endemic in every muslim enclave across the country all targeting care homes and using the same vile methods of drink and drugs on 11-15 year old white girls. Sick.
Edited by jogon on Tuesday 3rd March 09:40
ReallyReallyGood said:
MarshPhantom said:
Did child abuse not happen before the Muslims arrived?
On this national mass scale? I doubt it.CMD is reportedly going to say public officials that ignore it 'could' face a sentence of five years.
Could?
That wont happen. That bloke in Rotherham that took an 11 year old and 13 year old from a park and kept them at his home overnight only got three years, so how are public servants going to get 5 years?
That's about as likely as winning the lottery.
But I am sure he's taking it seriously.
Could?
That wont happen. That bloke in Rotherham that took an 11 year old and 13 year old from a park and kept them at his home overnight only got three years, so how are public servants going to get 5 years?
That's about as likely as winning the lottery.
But I am sure he's taking it seriously.
jogon said:
That is the one. There is another one though based on that with commentary (from someone with a distorted voice if you can get past that) which shows the geographical correlation of the stuff that has been going on.MarshPhantom said:
Seriously?
I'd say things aren't as bad now as they were in the sixties and seventies.
Does not matter either way. Where there is abuse it needs to be dealt with swiftly and effectively.I'd say things aren't as bad now as they were in the sixties and seventies.
The story in the two comments after the OP quite clearly indicates there are other sectors of society abusing their positions to prey on the vulnerable. Personally, I don;t care two sts who's committing the crimes, they are vile (the crimes and the perpetrators) and they deserve to feel the full weight of the law and should be given no opportunity to avoid it.
If that means targeting certain Muslim demographics, so be it. If that also means targeting bien-pensant perverts in the upper echelons of academia, so be it.
Edited by Digga on Tuesday 3rd March 10:05
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