Protecting savings against inflation

Protecting savings against inflation

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PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

159 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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With RPI at 3.9% and savings interest at less than 1% and royally being ripped off in the ISA, I'm losing a lot of value.

What would be the least riskiest way to protect it?

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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If you're happy to take an increased risk, the first stage would be to move part of your cash ISA into a stocks and shares ISA, invested in some mainstream funds.

red_slr

17,429 posts

191 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Have a look at Vanguard.

88racing

1,748 posts

158 months

Sunday 1st October 2017
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Bit late to put it in property. Gold?

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
With RPI at 3.9% and savings interest at less than 1% and royally being ripped off in the ISA, I'm losing a lot of value.

What would be the least riskiest way to protect it?
‘Royally ripped off’ - by whom?

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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sidicks said:
‘Royally ripped off’ - by whom?
The ISA provider of course.

Craikeybaby

10,462 posts

227 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
sidicks said:
‘Royally ripped off’ - by whom?
The ISA provider of course.
Move your ISA to one with lower fees then.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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sidicks said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
With RPI at 3.9% and savings interest at less than 1% and royally being ripped off in the ISA, I'm losing a lot of value.

What would be the least riskiest way to protect it?
‘Royally ripped off’ - by whom?
Is the ISA a stocks and shares ISA OR cash? If it's the latter then are you seriously expecting it to deliver 3%? Didn't you read the rate before you invested in it?

If there are better cash ISA offers on the market then it's simple to move.

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
sidicks said:
‘Royally ripped off’ - by whom?
The ISA provider of course.
Did they tell you what the rate was before you invested?
What do you think they are investing your money in (and what return are they getting on that)?
What are the charges for moving your investment to a different provider?

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Is the ISA a stocks and shares ISA OR cash? If it's the latter then are you seriously expecting it to deliver 3%? Didn't you read the rate before you invested in it?
It's always someone else's fault!

Welshbeef said:
If there are better cash ISA offers on the market then it's simple to move.
Indeed!

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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It's a cash ISA.

Yes I knew the rate. It's 0.5% pa. It's 0.25% lower than the bog standard and potentially taxable savings account.

I can see no justification for that. Hence being royally ripped off.

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's a cash ISA.

Yes I knew the rate. It's 0.5% pa. It's 0.25% lower than the bog standard and potentially taxable savings account.

I can see no justification for that. Hence being royally ripped off.
I can see why you don't think it is fair. There is more admin associated with ISAs, but I'm not sure that explains the situation. On the other hand I doubt it's massively profitable for them.

At least you can move it to anyone you like free of charge, but another won't help you with your inflation problem.

Edited by sidicks on Monday 2nd October 13:51

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's a cash ISA.

Yes I knew the rate. It's 0.5% pa. It's 0.25% lower than the bog standard and potentially taxable savings account.

I can see no justification for that. Hence being royally ripped off.
https://top-isa-rates.co.uk/v5?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5669m_vR1gIVhz4bCh1VoQCDEAAYASAAEgJY0fD_BwE

Depending on your view of tying up the cash for a period of time (years) there are rates with are 4x what you currently have plus a couple which I've not heard of offering 8%.

So you can change today and stop feeling totally ripped off. Best way to tell a bank is to vote with your cash and move it elsewhere.

Hope this helps.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
It's a cash ISA.

Yes I knew the rate. It's 0.5% pa. It's 0.25% lower than the bog standard and potentially taxable savings account.

I can see no justification for that. Hence being royally ripped off.
Did they force you at gunpoint to sign up to it?

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Did they force you at gunpoint to sign up to it?
Yes. They also grabbed my goolies and not in a nice way.

sidicks

25,218 posts

223 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
https://top-isa-rates.co.uk/v5?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5...

Depending on your view of tying up the cash for a period of time (years) there are rates with are 4x what you currently have plus a couple which I've not heard of offering 8%.

So you can change today and stop feeling totally ripped off. Best way to tell a bank is to vote with your cash and move it elsewhere.

Hope this helps.
Obviously rates on longer terms will be higher than instant access ISAs.

That 8% is a highly risky investment and not comparable to cash isa rates/

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Yes. They also grabbed my goolies and not in a nice way.
That sounds like you were lending your money to loan sharks or drug dealers.

Can I suggest you keep to the highstreet or grab their balls back and demand far higher returns - I'd expect in those risky areas 100% return in a couple of weeks wouldn't be unheard of

PurpleMoonlight

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22,362 posts

159 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Can I suggest you keep to the high street or grab their balls back and demand far higher returns
I would but they are all women in my branch.

alfaspecial

1,142 posts

142 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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I think the OP's point was that he is getting interest of .5% when inflation is 3.9%. That is a rip-off - any money held by a bank should not be worth less than the initial deposit, in real terms - after all it's not like the bank HAVE to lend it out at a loss is it?
A 'fair' rate of interest inflation plus 1 or 2% is hardly usury.

The economic term for Government policies since 2007, under Labour then Conservative/Liberal Democrat, now Conservative / DUP is a variant of FINANCIAL REPRESSION (look it up) http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=financial-repressi...
Only at the present time not only are the Government financing state expenditure with savers funds but have set in chain a series of deliberate policies where savers subsidise (Ex PM's / Chancellors etc ) 'friends in the city'! Which is why the Governor of the BoE is a banker (Goldman Sachs) but there is NO representation for the very people who's money is in the system. But that requires a political solution.


By way of practical advice moneysupermarket.com and the like have best buy tables.
https://www.moneysupermarket.com/savings/results/?...

Not perhaps a 'fair' return but better than 0.5%

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Monday 2nd October 2017
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alfaspecial said:
I think the OP's point was that he is getting interest of .5% when inflation is 3.9%. That is a rip-off
It's only a "rip-off" if the OP had no choice but to invest his money there. Clearly, he did - so it's not a rip-off, just a very poor choice on his part.