Mortgages for contractors/self employed

Mortgages for contractors/self employed

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Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Bristol spark said:
Sarnie, if you don't mind quick question roughly within context of this thread.

Last couple of years ive only taken around £12K/year salary + director loan repayment, whilst building up my business.

I have now very recently started taking some dividends, to bring to a normal income.

How long would i need to wait before im likely to be considered for a mortgage.

Ie, how many months/years income proof would normally be required?

Cheers
From what you've said, you can lend straight away.

The issue will be the figures and how much you want to lend.

The problem is that lenders average out your figures across two years but some will be an average of the last three years. But then also, there will be lenders who will lend against the latest years figures thus not penalising for the lower previous years..........it all depends on what you need, when you need it and what you have to show at that point in time.

There is also the option to lend against your companies net profit plus the salary you've taken.........I have lots of clients where the net profit of the business is huge but it makes no sense for them to draw all of that profit out of the business and taking a huge tax hit on the salary and dividends, just to secure a mortgage...............

A decent broker will be able to navigate through your circumstances and find the best way to secure what need smile

keo

2,096 posts

172 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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Glad i have found this topic, my mortgage runs out in 12 months or so, but since taking my mortgage on i have been a contractor through my own ltd company so i was just wondering what would happen.

Sarnie when the time comes i will be in touch

Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Friday 18th August 2017
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keo said:
Glad i have found this topic, my mortgage runs out in 12 months or so, but since taking my mortgage on i have been a contractor through my own ltd company so i was just wondering what would happen.

Sarnie when the time comes i will be in touch
No problem! thumbup

MrJuice

3,429 posts

158 months

Saturday 19th August 2017
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Sarnie said:
From what you've said, you can lend straight away.

The issue will be the figures and how much you want to lend.

The problem is that lenders average out your figures across two years but some will be an average of the last three years. But then also, there will be lenders who will lend against the latest years figures thus not penalising for the lower previous years..........it all depends on what you need, when you need it and what you have to show at that point in time.

There is also the option to lend against your companies net profit plus the salary you've taken.........I have lots of clients where the net profit of the business is huge but it makes no sense for them to draw all of that profit out of the business and taking a huge tax hit on the salary and dividends, just to secure a mortgage...............

A decent broker will be able to navigate through your circumstances and find the best way to secure what need smile
I had this. Company making good money but I draw little. My broker who doesn't charge a fee (but obviously gets commission from the lender) got me a good mortgage with Virgin Money. Deposit 31%

Many brokers baulked at the prospect of me getting a mortgage. Many said you need to draw the money down in your name. Many are st. One knob sent me some stupid proposal the details of which I've forgotten. But it was so expensive it was laughable and he told me it was the very best I could hope for in my position.

I used mortgage solutions in Hitchin. Ask for Colin. Guy definitely knows his stuff

martt

77 posts

95 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Just in the process of remortgaging and the numpties I've spoken to at Barclays and L&C are forcing me to consider my options as they just don't get it

My LTV is low and i've been contracting for nearly a decade

I don't really fancy paying a specialist to speed things up but i'm keen to take advantage of rates whilst they are low

My patience is running low... should i just be responding to their silly questions or are there better options


Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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martt said:
Just in the process of remortgaging and the numpties I've spoken to at Barclays and L&C are forcing me to consider my options as they just don't get it

My LTV is low and i've been contracting for nearly a decade

I don't really fancy paying a specialist to speed things up but i'm keen to take advantage of rates whilst they are low

My patience is running low... should i just be responding to their silly questions or are there better options
I have dozens of Contractor clients.........I've never placed one with Barclays!

What are they asking?

RacerMDR

5,530 posts

212 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Contractor Mortgages Made Easy - CMME


Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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RacerMDR said:
Contractor Mortgages Made Easy - CMME
From their site;

"Mortgages

CMME charge a success fee of up to £895 per obtained mortgage offer"

Wowser...................£895!..................I'll admit, I have a severe dislike of these firms and not sure why people pay them fees like this.......they know nothing more than any other knowledgeable broker, have access to no different rates or lenders.........they effectively prey on Contractors thinking that their circumstances are so complicated they need to seek out "specialists" like these and pay fees like these.

Or perhaps I'm looking at this all wrong and we should be charging Contractors £895!?!? smile

Rant over.....too early for wine??

MrJuice

3,429 posts

158 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Mortgage solutions did not charge me anything

martt

77 posts

95 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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Sarnie said:
I have dozens of Contractor clients.........I've never placed one with Barclays!

What are they asking?
Barclays i spoke with directly but it took an age for them to grasp how i pay myself with my salary and the dividend split between me and my wife

I've been asked to have my annual accounts to be audited (they had already been signed by my ICAEW accountant) as they were entitled 'unaudited'. Most of the conversations seem to be me trying to understand what it is they're asking for.. it's been very painful as they get themselves confused between company accounts and personal returns!

Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Friday 20th October 2017
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martt said:
Barclays i spoke with directly but it took an age for them to grasp how i pay myself with my salary and the dividend split between me and my wife

I've been asked to have my annual accounts to be audited (they had already been signed by my ICAEW accountant) as they were entitled 'unaudited'. Most of the conversations seem to be me trying to understand what it is they're asking for.. it's been very painful as they get themselves confused between company accounts and personal returns!
Ok, so even though you are a Contractor L&C have submitted this as a straight forward Ltd Company director application.....thats why Barclays are asking for company account and details of your drawings from the company........can be painful........a Contractor friendly lender would be happy with a copy of your current signed contract usually....

Good luck!

Leptons

5,147 posts

178 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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I didn’t realise we had a resident PH Mortgage advisor! Currently struggling too due to both being self employed.

I may fire a PM over after the weekend if that’s ok with you Sarnie?

Sarnie

8,064 posts

211 months

Saturday 21st October 2017
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Leptons said:
I didn’t realise we had a resident PH Mortgage advisor! Currently struggling too due to both being self employed.

I may fire a PM over after the weekend if that’s ok with you Sarnie?
Of course, no problem, more than happy to chat! smile

8bit

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4,897 posts

157 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Just to chuck in my 2p's worth - we've just had Sarnie do our mortgage provider switch and I'm a Ltd. Co contractor. All good, very happy to deal with him and would definitely recommend him to others. Thanks again!