Child Benefit Tax Charge

Child Benefit Tax Charge

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Senex

2,989 posts

177 months

Wednesday 28th February
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LowTread said:
Hard to imagine them not doing something about HICBC. It's universally hated and so many are dragged into self assessment by it now.

£50k doesn't feel like the aspirational target it once did. Now it's just the point where you bend over and hand the govt the lube.

I'm hoping the tax bands change to help boost productivity, but i really don't think direct tax or NI cuts are what we need right now.

I'm ready to be disappointed though.
Yep, all my life I've aspired to earn 50k, now I've finally got there I find for a family man earning between 50 and 60 is in the worst possible tax position.

What a load of bks, no wonder the Tories are hemorrhaging votes.

WhiskyDisco

810 posts

75 months

Wednesday 28th February
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Interesting summary of the past and future options here https://www.blickrothenberg.com/insights/detail/hi...

Chicken Chaser

7,869 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th February
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No chance of them sorting this out, it's dead in the water.

duckson

1,244 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th February
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Looks like they won’t be changing it;

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-hunt-chil...

borcy

3,093 posts

57 months

Thursday 29th February
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https://archive.ph/WAnur

Non pay walled version.

duckson

1,244 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th February
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borcy said:
https://archive.ph/WAnur

Non pay walled version.
Thanks, I can view the other one though even though I dont subscribe?

LowTread

4,391 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th February
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Well i'll be pretty miffed if they literally do nothing.

That's me salary sacrificing more into my pension in 2025 then.
And part time in 2026.

The govt can go fk themselves then.

Puzzles

1,880 posts

112 months

Thursday 29th February
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it will be pretty devastating if they raise the age you can access your private pension

Beethree

Original Poster:

811 posts

90 months

Thursday 29th February
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LowTread said:
Well i'll be pretty miffed if they literally do nothing.

That's me salary sacrificing more into my pension in 2025 then.
And part time in 2026.

The govt can go fk themselves then.
Yup, just another blow for the average family who can keep getting fked by the government for working hard.

WhiskyDisco

810 posts

75 months

Thursday 29th February
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Puzzles said:
it will be pretty devastating if they raise the age you can access your private pension
True - I understand that it could remain locked to 10 years earlier than state retirement age.

I'm 50 this year and I am expecting it to move to 57 by the time I can access.

I will need to be 68 to access my state pension, at which time people younger than me will need to be 58 to access their private pension. However, there is no documentary evidence of this (the bit about being 58).

LowTread

4,391 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th February
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Beethree said:
LowTread said:
Well i'll be pretty miffed if they literally do nothing.

That's me salary sacrificing more into my pension in 2025 then.
And part time in 2026.

The govt can go fk themselves then.
Yup, just another blow for the average family who can keep getting fked by the government for working hard.
Yep. If your wife doesn't earn much, you have kids and you happen to have a slightly half decent income (but nothing amazing) then you're getting shafted for 60%+.

In a world where min wage for just doing 37.5 hrs a week is £20k, how on earth does a marginal rate of 62% at £50k for an average 2 kid family make sense??

Edited by LowTread on Thursday 29th February 18:16

duckson

1,244 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th February
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WhiskyDisco said:
Puzzles said:
it will be pretty devastating if they raise the age you can access your private pension
True - I understand that it could remain locked to 10 years earlier than state retirement age.

I'm 50 this year and I am expecting it to move to 57 by the time I can access.

I will need to be 68 to access my state pension, at which time people younger than me will need to be 58 to access their private pension. However, there is no documentary evidence of this (the bit about being 58).
It already is 57 from 2028 (for most pensions).

State Pension for you is 67 currently, will it change to 68, who knows, there is/was talk of it but life expectency has dropped.

mike9009

7,051 posts

244 months

Thursday 29th February
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LowTread said:
Yep. If your wife doesn't earn much, you have kids and you happen to have a slightly half decent income (but nothing amazing) then you're getting shafted for 60%+.

In a world where min wage for just doing 37.5 hrs a week is £20k, how on earth does a marginal rate of 62% at £50k for an average 2 kid family make sense??

Edited by LowTread on Thursday 29th February 18:16
I am in this position. But it is not a higher tax rate really.....it is paying back a benefit you have been given.

It is vindictive though as my wife hardly earns anything, but I do. But friends of ours earn far more collectively but don't pay anything back..... Ho hum.

Milner993

1,304 posts

163 months

Thursday 29th February
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The more I read this thread the more annoyed I get!
I'm fortunate enough to be earning a decent wage around £65k my wife only works part time due to child care costs so we loose all the child benefit.

What's the sweet spot between £50k and £100k if there is one?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some tax breaks but I'm not going to hold my breath.

md_ph

369 posts

105 months

Thursday 29th February
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Milner993 said:
The more I read this thread the more annoyed I get!
I'm fortunate enough to be earning a decent wage around £65k my wife only works part time due to child care costs so we loose all the child benefit.

What's the sweet spot between £50k and £100k if there is one?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some tax breaks but I'm not going to hold my breath.
99,999 is the sweet spot! Once you go over 100k you get hit with another whammy in that you start to lose your tax free allowance - giving an effective tax rate of 60% until you earn over £125k

Puzzles

1,880 posts

112 months

Thursday 29th February
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md_ph said:
Milner993 said:
The more I read this thread the more annoyed I get!
I'm fortunate enough to be earning a decent wage around £65k my wife only works part time due to child care costs so we loose all the child benefit.

What's the sweet spot between £50k and £100k if there is one?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for some tax breaks but I'm not going to hold my breath.
99,999 is the sweet spot! Once you go over 100k you get hit with another whammy in that you start to lose your tax free allowance - giving an effective tax rate of 60% until you earn over £125k
And don’t forget childcare

Milner993

1,304 posts

163 months

Thursday 29th February
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The £100k mark is another two promotions above me so not going to get there for a while!

For the tax year 23/24 do I have until January next year to pay extra in to my pension to receive the tax relief or have I got to pay the extra in before April this year?

Doing a bit more reading I've read something about higher rate tax relief on earnings over £50270 through self assessment, is this something I should be doing now or by January next year?
My earnings for tax year 22/23 was £49k so I didn't need to worry about all this nonsense then!

Apologies if I haven't made sense

Edited by Milner993 on Thursday 29th February 21:45

olo tation

37 posts

56 months

Thursday 29th February
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You would need to have made any contributions to your pension within the tax year that the tax return relates to, not within the timeline to the tax return due date.

I.e. by the start of april for the 23/24 tax year.

The Rotrex Kid

30,427 posts

161 months

Monday 4th March
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Telegraph still seem to think it is on the cards.....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/tax/how-much-wou...

Hondashark

370 posts

31 months

Monday 4th March
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It is on the cards.....to be used as an election bribe.