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K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Pete102 said:
Apple ...

BP...
...been in both a while 110% gain on Apple now (plus a couple of $s divi ...)

And thank goodness for some dividends from BP, precisely 6.19% up over a similar period (since 2011 or just after when the Gulf thing happened)

I'm back into ARM - having made a few £££ and cashing in some months back. I'm fancying them for some short-medium term gains at the mo, and I have a liking for their business model.

caduceus

6,071 posts

267 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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trashbat said:
caduceus said:
Although I have not sold my range holding, so not a loss yet.
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It's a loss.

If your house burns down to the ground, is it a loss, or might fairies yet emerge from the charred remains and reconstruct it from the golden weave of their flaxen hair? It's a loss.
Is that the best analogy you can muster? Who are you to say what future lays ahead for RRL? You'll me telling me your name is Meg next.

trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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caduceus said:
Is that the best analogy you can muster? Who are you to say what future lays ahead for RRL? You'll me telling me your name is Meg next.
Yeah, and you could have bought into RRL now at this bargain rate with the money you had in the first place. Except you've lost it.

Honestly, I try and be faintly nice to people on this thread, especially when things have gone wrong, but you need to develop at least some self-awareness or you might as well just smoke your money. Recognising that a loss is a loss all the time - not just a paper fiction until some future point - is pretty much the first part of that.

twinturboz

1,278 posts

179 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Quite simple really isn't it. Making money means your right, loosing money means your wrong. Can't argue with the market.

trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I don't know about that - I might engage in capitalist bdry but it doesn't mean I agree with it tongue out

K12beano

20,854 posts

276 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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rofl

MikeGoodwin

3,348 posts

118 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Anyone ever used the NASDAQ Short term trade index and made money from it?

How on earth do you actually buy shares in this. I cant find it anywhere. I know its US based.

Countdown

40,070 posts

197 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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tom2019 said:
g4ry13 said:
Is Tesco no longer of interest to people? Recovery stock play? (even though it's gone up quite a bit lately)
I bought tesco at their lowest around 17x something. Looking like a good hold for 3-5 years. But the again its my starting account , so i only put 200 on, and 200 on BP. I still have 600 left and have stalled in my decision making.
I bought at 194 a few weeks ago and bought some more at 192 yesterday.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

220 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I bought tesco at 169
Thoughts on Virgin money price?

caduceus

6,071 posts

267 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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trashbat said:
eah, and you could have bought into RRL now at this bargain rate with the money you had in the first place. Except you've lost it.
Are you retarded? I haven't sold. So how have I lost it exactly? It's paper loss and nothing more. Honestly....

trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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OK, sure, no loss. Good for you. Good luck with your investing! smile

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Talking of losses, it appears QPP holders on the LSE are finally starting to wake up and smell the coffee.


trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Oakey said:
Talking of losses, it appears QPP holders on the LSE are finally starting to wake up and smell the coffee.
I don't know that they've woken up so much as given up, whilst being overrun by people arriving to cheerfully take the piss. It's certainly an interesting board these days.

I feel a degree of sympathy for anyone who lost out in the beginning of this affair, and to a lesser degree, for anyone who knowingly risked their money on the hope that it would come good. The people bogged down in it until the bitter end though, who can't or won't admit it, that's of their own making.

Is it wishful thinking to hope that the apparently forthcoming demise of Quindell, surely one of the poster children of AIM after ASOS, might bring about a shakeup of regulation and the joke of a market that AIM's become? It doesn't seem high profile enough beyond the share pages of a few newspapers for a start, but even if it did I can't see it happening.

I haven't lost anything on QPP but I don't think I'll ever put another penny into AIM unless it's a cynical move against other PIs. The whole thing is riddled with corruption and less than transparent deals. OPAY is the latest one to be 'caught' using Equity First.

Oakey

27,610 posts

217 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I have no sympathy for the long termers there, their attitude and behaviour towards anyone who wasn't drinking from the Quindell Kool Aid was terrible and they deserve everything coming to them.

It serves them right for filtering everyone else and leaving nothing but an echo chamber of "great share this" ad infinum.


StangGT

3,925 posts

270 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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Any further word on red leopard? I'm showing another brilliant loss frown

Hey ho, never mind. I've still got a couple of winners in the list

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

184 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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StangGT said:
Any further word on red leopard? I'm showing another brilliant loss frown

Hey ho, never mind. I've still got a couple of winners in the list
I'm still in there at the moment and also showing a loss (not a loss until I sell though - lolz wink). Think it's a longer termer holding than I first had it down for. I was initially targeting to be out by Xmas this year but maybe I was over-optimistic with that. 2015 should be an interesting year for it, certainly the 2nd half of the year (not sure if I mean interesting as a good or bad thing yet...!).

My investment there was small and was profit from somewhere else so it was a binary punt as much as anything, but the rumours of quantity and quality in the mine still sound good.

*Badger*

530 posts

177 months

Saturday 15th November 2014
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I was trying to get in RLH for ages at around 0.45p and my deals kept expiring as they were strong above that upto 0.63p, however, as you say it's gone very quiet, and was about 0.33p last time I checked. Is that mine empty?

gregf40

1,114 posts

117 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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caduceus said:
trashbat said:
Yeah, and you could have bought into RRL now at this bargain rate with the money you had in the first place. Except you've lost it.
Are you retarded? I haven't sold. So how have I lost it exactly? It's paper loss and nothing more. Honestly....
Absolutely brilliant.

You have lost because your personal net asset value has decreased - if you sold today you would be poorer than before making the investment.

Whether you sell or hold is completely irrelevant.

trashbat

6,006 posts

154 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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Ah, leave 'em to it. If I had a first rule of investing, it'd be to reflect on your trades, admit failure and adapt accordingly, fast. If you can't look at a big red number and think 'loss', or more accurately, 'I really st the bed with that one', then you shouldn't be buying so much as your own bus tickets.

But there's no helping people if they don't want it. Let time sort it out.

Condi

17,321 posts

172 months

Sunday 16th November 2014
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gregf40 said:
caduceus said:
trashbat said:
Yeah, and you could have bought into RRL now at this bargain rate with the money you had in the first place. Except you've lost it.
Are you retarded? I haven't sold. So how have I lost it exactly? It's paper loss and nothing more. Honestly....
Absolutely brilliant.

You have lost because your personal net asset value has decreased - if you sold today you would be poorer than before making the investment.

Whether you sell or hold is completely irrelevant.
Depends if you're trading or investing. As a trader, I would agree that you've not lost it until you close your position. Running loss making positions while believing that it will come back your way is part of what we do, and a very stressful part at that. If you're investing and worried about net value then yes, you've lost it.
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