Opinion on this UPVC window & door install?

Opinion on this UPVC window & door install?

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cashmax

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1,108 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Nearing the end of a long and slightly painful garage rebuild after a fire. Had the window company come and measure up a few weeks ago and they installed this yesterday, unfortunately I wasn't there because I was working.

Not entirely happy with the result, given this was a made to measure solution. Just wanted to get some independent opinions before I go back them.

For clarity, my builder cut the wall, they came and measured, then fitted.




dazwalsh

6,095 posts

142 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Exterior looks to be ok, what issues do you have with the install?

Did you specify anti snap locks?


TooLateForAName

4,759 posts

185 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Is it the lens or are the sides and top curved?

Were you expecting a window above the door?

cashmax

Original Poster:

1,108 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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TooLateForAName said:
Is it the lens or are the sides and top curved?

Were you expecting a window above the door?
The window above the door is my issue. It wasn't discussed and makes the whole thing look odd to me. I had hoped the glass in the door would have been level with the glass in the windows, but it looks like the door has dropped own from a distance. Perhaps I was expecting too much, but why couldn't the door just extend to the top?

Marvtec

421 posts

160 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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As a made to measure solution, I would not expect the crappy space-filler window above the door and therefore that the glass in the door would be the same height as the window's glass so it all matches.

This install looks more like its been done using second hand stuff off Gumtree.

ETA - cross posted with OP but you're of the same mind as me!

Edited by Marvtec on Wednesday 25th January 10:31

Blakeatron

2,516 posts

174 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Most plastic doors come as standard sizes and you fill in as required either with plastic trims or make down with wood/render/block etc.

Your builder has cut a hole without checking the sizes of the doors available, the window man has done his best with what he had.

Made to measure/bepsoke are available but would of cost you a lot more than that one did!

The biggest question will be what was asked/specced and what was agreed on the estinate.

For a garage it wouldnt bother me, for a house i couldnt live with it - i would probably drop the whole head of window and door. Easy if externally rendered, not so if bricked

bigdom

2,094 posts

146 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Agree with the above, I believe the issue starts and stops with the builder, I think the hole isn't within the sphere of pvc door sizes.

Whilst it's made to fit, there's limits on what they can make them in. I've only installed 5/6 pvc doors on a diy basis, although none of them taller than 2250mm including frame.

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Why are the hinges on the outside?



Edited by V8A*ndy on Wednesday 25th January 11:20

Ashtray83

572 posts

169 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Agree it doesn't look the best I don't know why they had the fan light above the door pvc doors are made to measure surely they could have just had a slightly taller door made? Did you ok the design? Is want it changed

The only thing you could perhaps do is to replace the glass with a a white pvc panel cut from the same stuff as used in the lower part of the door that might improve the look a bit

Piersman2

6,604 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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V8A*ndy said:
Why is the hinges on the outside?

Because the door opens outward? smile

Piersman2

6,604 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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OP, that does look 'wrong'.

What height was the opening the brickie left?

It does look like the door could have been manufactured to the full height assuming a made to measure door/window had been promised/priced.

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Piersman2 said:
V8A*ndy said:
Why is the hinges on the outside?

Because the door opens outward? smile
That's why it looks so ste..... Looks ok-ish from the inside. The window above doesn't help.

From the outside it just looks all wrong.

Piersman2

6,604 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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V8A*ndy said:
Piersman2 said:
V8A*ndy said:
Why is the hinges on the outside?

Because the door opens outward? smile
That's why it looks so ste..... Looks ok-ish from the inside. The window above doesn't help.

From the outside it just looks all wrong.
Thing is, the window fitter will have discussed all this with the OP (I assume) so it shouldn't come as a surprise. Maybe the little window should be fitted at the bottom of the door! biggrin

ETA: WHat looks wrong about the hinges is that they SHOULD be hanging from the right hand side, the brickwork. Hanging them from the left means the weight of the door is on that window frame, not sure if it's technically strong enough to support the door weight over time, but it doesn't look correct!

Edited by Piersman2 on Wednesday 25th January 11:30

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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I'd blame the builder unless you asked to have a taller than standard door or a specific sized window.

cashmax

Original Poster:

1,108 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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So to add a little more to this - The original plan was to not have a door at all, so the build was done to accommodate only windows on that side, but I decided at the last minute that a door would be worth adding. I guess this meant that the upper height was already set and my builder cut out the lower section to house the door. Having said that, the full height from top to bottom was 2300mm so I don't know if that causes a problem for door choices or something, but I just don't see what purpose the window in the frame at the top serves, other than to make it look a bit st.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

162 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Doors come in standard sizes, I can't really see what else they could have done, the window at the top looks better than a bit of upvc cladding.

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Maybe the builder was one of these '£150' people.
Unless specifically asked for that is horrendous.

Little Lofty

3,305 posts

152 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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A door of that style can be made any height (within reason) It could have had a larger glazed panel or larger lower panel, I can't understand why it has the top light, more work and more expensive.
However If there are no plans and it was a last minute change of mind I doubt you have much comeback, it may not be what you expected but at the same time it's not wrong, just a bit odd

wolfracesonic

7,089 posts

128 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Not knowing the specifics, it maybe wasn't the door that couldn't be made higher but the espagnolette locking mechanism that limited the height: I will agree it looks a bit odd.

Peanut Gallery

2,440 posts

111 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Also no trickle vents, but not sure if they are needed.

Also agree with the door opening outwards for reduced security..