Best Wifi enabled thermostat
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HoHoHo said:
Salus does the same, heating and hot water and is £160 to buy outright (no charges per year).
The main reason I went for the Tado over anything else is the somewhat unpredictable nature of when we will be at home or not. Sometimes we're in all day, some times out all day, it varies from week to week. Tado has the At home/Out/Night profiles and then switches between them depending if you are in or not. Salus seemed to need a more regular routine than that.
5678 said:
HoHoHo said:
Salus does the same, heating and hot water and is £160 to buy outright (no charges per year).
The main reason I went for the Tado over anything else is the somewhat unpredictable nature of when we will be at home or not. Sometimes we're in all day, some times out all day, it varies from week to week. Tado has the At home/Out/Night profiles and then switches between them depending if you are in or not. Salus seemed to need a more regular routine than that.
its one button to press on your phone when you are out and the same when you are on the way home. Works well so far, I can see whats going on at home when Im in a hotel room and make sure the house is toasty when I return
...of course what its NOT doing is tracking your location by your mobile phone like some of the other "smart" devices, but Im not sure I want that anyway
bogie said:
not quite...Salus has the usual routines but also shortcut buttons on the app or website. I bought it for same reason as myself and GF are always in or out at irregular intervals
its one button to press on your phone when you are out and the same when you are on the way home. Works well so far, I can see whats going on at home when Im in a hotel room and make sure the house is toasty when I return
...of course what its NOT doing is tracking your location by your mobile phone like some of the other "smart" devices, but Im not sure I want that anyway
Thats good to know. If I don't get on with the Tado I can exit and get a refund at any point which was another plus point to the rental option.its one button to press on your phone when you are out and the same when you are on the way home. Works well so far, I can see whats going on at home when Im in a hotel room and make sure the house is toasty when I return
...of course what its NOT doing is tracking your location by your mobile phone like some of the other "smart" devices, but Im not sure I want that anyway
Talking of connecting up the home - I have the nest already, but debated purchasing the smoke/CO alarm, but the feature in the latest software version makes me think this is not a bad thing
http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
Brother D said:
Talking of connecting up the home - I have the nest already, but debated purchasing the smoke/CO alarm, but the feature in the latest software version makes me think this is not a bad thing
http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
But how do we get it in the UK?http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
zed4 said:
Brother D said:
Talking of connecting up the home - I have the nest already, but debated purchasing the smoke/CO alarm, but the feature in the latest software version makes me think this is not a bad thing
http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
But how do we get it in the UK?http://support.nest.com/article/What-s-new-in-the-...
"CEHRC also Faulty heating equipment is the number one potential source of carbon monoxide (CO) in the home. So if your Nest Protect detects dangerous levels of CO in your home, your Nest Thermostat will protect you by automatically shutting off your heating system, if your system burns gas or oil".
Note much new here but perhaps worth a browse... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25779937
We have the British Gas one.
Fitted and set up for £200 iirc.
http://www.britishgas.co.uk/smarter-living/control...
Combined with our new smart meters we've seen our monthly bills reduced by circa £60 a month by simply not having the heating blasting away with nobody in the house if we are late home from work.
Ie we use the app to turn the heating on 20 mins before we get in rather than coming on at 6pm regardless.
Fitted and set up for £200 iirc.
http://www.britishgas.co.uk/smarter-living/control...
Combined with our new smart meters we've seen our monthly bills reduced by circa £60 a month by simply not having the heating blasting away with nobody in the house if we are late home from work.
Ie we use the app to turn the heating on 20 mins before we get in rather than coming on at 6pm regardless.
Is the NEST really that good though?
Most people who don't have a programmable timer probably have a timer on their boiler already.
Then those who buy a better thermostat will buy one with multi-timing features on it and set accordingly.
I'm struggling to see how it can save 20% on bills unless you literally have a single thermostat with a static setting and then just leave the heating on 24/7.
I like the NEST concept that gives you the ability to turn on the boiler 24/7 and then choose the right values through the day, and I guess it creates nice curves for weekends etc too, slowly populating lots of points for target temp vs time of day and getting your 'ideal' settings.
But is that really that far away from having a thermostat with a baseline temp target with say 3 timed/heat spec zones throughout the day?
Also a bit confused how you can have more than one zone with fixed TRV's. Is that just meaning that heating can turn off if the prioritised zone reaches temp before the other? Surely if all the heating is set up nicely then this will be about the same time no matter which thermostat has priority on the switching?
It feels like the only really good system that will save money over a well set up 7 day, 3-block timer for example, is something like EvoHome?
Dave
Most people who don't have a programmable timer probably have a timer on their boiler already.
Then those who buy a better thermostat will buy one with multi-timing features on it and set accordingly.
I'm struggling to see how it can save 20% on bills unless you literally have a single thermostat with a static setting and then just leave the heating on 24/7.
I like the NEST concept that gives you the ability to turn on the boiler 24/7 and then choose the right values through the day, and I guess it creates nice curves for weekends etc too, slowly populating lots of points for target temp vs time of day and getting your 'ideal' settings.
But is that really that far away from having a thermostat with a baseline temp target with say 3 timed/heat spec zones throughout the day?
Also a bit confused how you can have more than one zone with fixed TRV's. Is that just meaning that heating can turn off if the prioritised zone reaches temp before the other? Surely if all the heating is set up nicely then this will be about the same time no matter which thermostat has priority on the switching?
It feels like the only really good system that will save money over a well set up 7 day, 3-block timer for example, is something like EvoHome?
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
Is the NEST really that good though?
Most people who don't have a programmable timer probably have a timer on their boiler already.
Then those who buy a better thermostat will buy one with multi-timing features on it and set accordingly.
I'm struggling to see how it can save 20% on bills unless you literally have a single thermostat with a static setting and then just leave the heating on 24/7.
I like the NEST concept that gives you the ability to turn on the boiler 24/7 and then choose the right values through the day, and I guess it creates nice curves for weekends etc too, slowly populating lots of points for target temp vs time of day and getting your 'ideal' settings.
But is that really that far away from having a thermostat with a baseline temp target with say 3 timed/heat spec zones throughout the day?
Also a bit confused how you can have more than one zone with fixed TRV's. Is that just meaning that heating can turn off if the prioritised zone reaches temp before the other? Surely if all the heating is set up nicely then this will be about the same time no matter which thermostat has priority on the switching?
It feels like the only really good system that will save money over a well set up 7 day, 3-block timer for example, is something like EvoHome?
Dave
Pretty much my thoughts on Nest too. Looks pretty and learns your usage patterns. I went for Tado for the automatic home/not at home feature. I can see this genuinely saving us money from its ability to reduce use when we are not at home. Most people who don't have a programmable timer probably have a timer on their boiler already.
Then those who buy a better thermostat will buy one with multi-timing features on it and set accordingly.
I'm struggling to see how it can save 20% on bills unless you literally have a single thermostat with a static setting and then just leave the heating on 24/7.
I like the NEST concept that gives you the ability to turn on the boiler 24/7 and then choose the right values through the day, and I guess it creates nice curves for weekends etc too, slowly populating lots of points for target temp vs time of day and getting your 'ideal' settings.
But is that really that far away from having a thermostat with a baseline temp target with say 3 timed/heat spec zones throughout the day?
Also a bit confused how you can have more than one zone with fixed TRV's. Is that just meaning that heating can turn off if the prioritised zone reaches temp before the other? Surely if all the heating is set up nicely then this will be about the same time no matter which thermostat has priority on the switching?
It feels like the only really good system that will save money over a well set up 7 day, 3-block timer for example, is something like EvoHome?
Dave
5678 said:
Pretty much my thoughts on Nest too. Looks pretty and learns your usage patterns. I went for Tado for the automatic home/not at home feature. I can see this genuinely saving us money from its ability to reduce use when we are not at home.
I agree, much better to tell it what you want it to do than it learn. Knowing where you are and adjusting accordingly - that has merit.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff