Opinion on this UPVC window & door install?

Opinion on this UPVC window & door install?

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thebraketester

14,282 posts

139 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Piersman2 said:
V8A*ndy said:
Why is the hinges on the outside?

Because the door opens outward? smile
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thebraketester

14,282 posts

139 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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It looks odd because the hole in the wall is an odd shape. It would have looked better with no window IMO

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

171 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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get the door taken out and get the builder to build the brickwork up under the door opening and put a step in.

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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dazwalsh said:
Exterior looks to be ok, what issues do you have with the install?

Did you specify anti snap locks?
Okay? First thing that struck me was 'wtf?' With the door 6 inches below the window tops.....

But the rest of the thread revealed the change of plans etc.

Personally I'd have expected a longer door to be made, or something to make it look less odd.

Busa mav

2,566 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Somebody has briefed the window guys here, they didn't just go away and make it up, hopefully.
I assume it was the builder who briefed them, and I would be asking him what was discussed.
I would have expected him to be pointing out the over sized height of the opening to both you and the window guys.

As Spudler said, it was probably a £150/day tradesman biggrinwink

As for the door opening outwards, its quite common to a garage so it doesn't clash with any vehicles that may be parked inside.
I would have had the door hung with the hinges against the brickwork , but hey it will be fine as is.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

171 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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So, the builder makes the hole, window man measures, and it's the builders fault?

One would have assumed the window supplier would have sent someone a design and a quotation to sign that it was acceptable before ordering.


Anyway, good luck with getting ether of them to admit responsibility to that one.


paulwirral

3,165 posts

136 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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It is hinged on the wrong side , but by your own admission the door wasn't supposed to be there in the first place , only the windows . The builder had no option but to cut out and continue the soldier course , hence it was window above or a much bigger step in . im guessing the supplier thought the step would be to high so window above is the best of a bad job .

55palfers

5,924 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Odd.

Maybe if the glass above the door was the same width as the window in the door?

herbialfa

1,489 posts

203 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Most decent companies would have provided you with a drawing/ sketch to make sure what was agreed.

Doesn't really help that you admit you changed your mind at the last minute.

Who did you inform of this change of mind & when?

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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The problem is the tty builder/brickie set the lintel at 2325 which is 10 blocks and a brick. Standard height for all external doors and windows is 2100, 9 blocks and a brick.
No one would make a door to suit that opening. fk up from the start.

roofer

5,136 posts

212 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Spudler said:
The problem is the tty builder/brickie set the lintel at 2325 which is 10 blocks and a brick. Standard height for all external doors and windows is 2100, 9 blocks and a brick.
No one would make a door to suit that opening. fk up from the start.
This.

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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roofer said:
Spudler said:
The problem is the tty builder/brickie set the lintel at 2325 which is 10 blocks and a brick. Standard height for all external doors and windows is 2100, 9 blocks and a brick.
No one would make a door to suit that opening. fk up from the start.
This.
Yes, how dare the builder not plan ahead to make the window suitable to be turned into a door...... biggrin

cashmax

Original Poster:

1,110 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Thanks for the comments. How I wish my builder was a "£150 a day man" he is a good guy, but as I said, I decided I needed a door a few days after the brickwork was done to accommodate windows only.

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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cashmax said:
Thanks for the comments. How I wish my builder was a "£150 a day man" he is a good guy, but as I said, I decided I needed a door a few days after the brickwork was done to accommodate windows only.
What I was saying is that even if there was only ever going to be windows the lintel height was still one block (225) to high.
Anyway, it's done now smile

dickymint

24,493 posts

259 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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roofer said:
Spudler said:
The problem is the tty builder/brickie set the lintel at 2325 which is 10 blocks and a brick. Standard height for all external doors and windows is 2100, 9 blocks and a brick.
No one would make a door to suit that opening. fk up from the start.
This.
I used to manage a large upvc company (subsidiary to a major Park Home manufacturer). We never ever made a standard size exterior door for except for our parent company!!

JMC180

41 posts

103 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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When I recently bought my house and wanted to install French doors, I had all the lintels lowered to 2.2m from DPC to ensure I could get a door in my chosen design (residence 9)

It was either that or have a 100mm blanked section at the top which was never going to happen.

Gtom

1,618 posts

133 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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Spudler said:
Maybe the builder was one of these '£150' people.
Unless specifically asked for that is horrendous.
What does the '£150 people' mean?

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

132 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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So it seems the question is...

Is 2325mm too tall for a standard sized door? Meaning that there was no other option but to have the window above it, or a coupe of courses of bricks below to raise the door to the top.

Edited by LeadFarmer on Thursday 26th January 22:50

Little Lofty

3,307 posts

152 months

Thursday 26th January 2017
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LeadFarmer said:
So it seems the question is...

Is 2325mm too tall for a standard sized door? Meaning that there was no other option but to have the window above it, or a coupe of courses of bricks below to raise the door to the top.

Edited by LeadFarmer on Thursday 26th January 22:50
Maybe for that manufacturer but that style of door is made in the same way as a window i.e cut from long lengths of profile and welded, so apart from weight and the locking mechanism they are pretty flexible. I've just had a set of upvc French doors made at 2300 high. Composite doors have a smaller maximum height as the door blanks come at a set size, I think the max including the frame and build up is around 2150

Spudler

3,985 posts

197 months

Friday 27th January 2017
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Gtom said:
Spudler said:
Maybe the builder was one of these '£150' people.
Unless specifically asked for that is horrendous.
What does the '£150 people' mean?
Reference to another thread where it was suggested £150 was the going rate for trades.
Actually, that was one of the more generous figures that's been banded about on HG&DIY.
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