Grade 2 listed, would you?

[stewjohnst]

blade7 said:

...it being listed doesn't help.

It doesn't make as much difference as you'd think.

- Any repair you are doing like for like does not require permission and you don't need to inform conservation or request Listed Building Consent.

- If you're doing anything external like for like that has the potential to not quite sit visually true with original, e.g. Repointing in lime (variance in mix/colours) you may have to point a small sample first to get approval for the mix/tone of mortar from conservation but that's not that onerous.

- For structural changes or things that are equivalent to permitted development, an email to conservation usually confirms if you need lbc or can just go ahead. Unlike planning permission, lbc costs nothing to obtain.l although lbc doesn't absolve you of the need for planning permission for major works.

Other than that, it's not really any different to normal.

Buy it already

[blade7]

stewjohnst said:

It doesn't make as much difference as you'd think.


Buy it already

Are you related to the vendor or the estate agent? If only I could fit the £600 UPVC georgian bar dg vertical sliders like I did in the last place I renovated. If it happens we'll be heading into winter, so my old sheepskin coat might make a comeback. Great thread on your house, though the thought of that amount of work made me a bit twitchy.

Edited by blade7 on Monday 31st July 10:44

[hyphen]

Where about in the country is the house? As you have quoted your estimated prices, but prices vary according to region.

[blade7]

No where near the smoke .

[Murph7355]

As long as you follow the process, it being listed doesn't have to be a major headache. Just cover all the details up front (and know that there will be plenty of unforeseen stuff that could give issues too).

We've had approvals for a rear extension and loft conversion and ours is Grade 2*. So it's possible.

Trying to meet the conservation office up front is a good idea, but may not be feasible. I think numbers are dwindling if our area is anything to go by so getting time with them without specifics can be an issue.

[Rosscow]

If you potentially have 20 sliding sash windows that need replacing, I think your estimate of £25k is optimistic.

Budget more like £35k. Of course, things like single glazed/slimlite make a big difference.

[blade7]

The information on the Historic England website details the construction and brick type, roof type, plus the windows and door type in the front elevation. Is this all the information a conservation officer would have too?

[dmsims]

How on earth did they get PP for that carbuncle on the side ?

[blade7]

Thanks for all the constructive replies.

Edited by blade7 on Monday 31st July 11:42

[Rosscow]

I think it looks lovely, OP.

The windows in the flat roof part could maybe do with a little extra to give it some more character, but I'd certainly not call it ugly!

[blade7]

The vendor didn't think much of our offer, so it's unlikely we'll be chilly in The Grange this winter .

[Yidwann]

blade7 said:

The vendor didn't think much of our offer, so it's unlikely we'll be chilly in The Grange this winter .

Might still be time to wait it out...... not sure what its like around that area, but the market here has pretty much ground to a halt, anyone who has to sell is going to have to start listening to offers if they want to move on.

Which is handy, as we've found a Grade II aswell, looks like on the face of it though needs a lot less work!

[blade7]

Yidwann said:

Might still be time to wait it out...... not sure what its like around that area, but the market here has pretty much ground to a halt.

Good, it's well overdue.

[lucyl]

The house looks beautiful - as others have commented on here, if it's going to be a family home it would be a great investment. Maybe not something you're going to make money on in the long run, but you'll reap all the rewards if you put the time and money into it.

I would personally recommend getting a Listed Building Survey (shop around for different companies that offer it and make sure you know exactly what you're paying) after all it's much better to find out about any serious problems now than further down the line. The survey could actually end up saving you a lot of money! If you've not had a survey before try Googling to see what they're like - I found this blog quite useful https://www.ernestbarnesltd.co.uk/historic-buildin... but there are many more online.

Contacting the local conservation officer is also a good bet - they might know of the property already and any previous attempts at restoration etc.

[blade7]

Thanks for the info, but the vendor rejected our offer and the estate agent doesn't seem interested either. The basement layout seems unusual, it's only under the front of the house, and the floors of the 2 rooms above it are around 3ft higher than the rest of the ground floor.