Japanese Knotweed

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stackmonkey

5,077 posts

251 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Simpo Two said:
Doesn't a translocated herbicide like gyphosate or glufosinate ammonium shift it after a few applications?
yes

It's how a neighbour and I killed off a patch before we knew that it was an offence to move parts of it.
Large application of glyphosate, wait for most to die, dispose of dead material to tip, repeat several times...

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

260 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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James here:

I'am developer and we deal with it alot...

There are three general ways of dealing with it;-

1)Weedkiller (individual stem injection or spraying) Has to show clear of regrowth for two seasons to get an EA certificate. Cheap(except injection) and does take time generally 3-4years
2)Dig and incinerate the root nodules by seiving by hand. OUr prefered route can be done very quickly and will get immediate EA certificate and normally guarenteed by contractor. NOT as cheap as weedkiller.
3)Dig and dump, rules used to be 8m around routes and 5m down. EA recommended but simply not possible due to govt land fill tax. I believe there is only now 4 tips in uk can that take the contaminated waste. For example one site dig and dump was £600k quote had it sorted and burn for £25k.

There is loads of the stuff everywhere, and most people don't even know what it looks like. Used in railway embankments and river banks to strengthen the ground by the Victorians..looks pretty too!

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Perhaps we need reverse psychology. Pretend that you LIKE Japanese knotweed. You want a lush lawn that is 100% Japanese knotweed with no pesky weeds such as grass. Grow Japanese knotweed for food - open a vegetarian restuarant with a menu based on 20 Japanese knotweed recipes. Draw up a business plan assuming a 400% year-on-year growth of Japanese knotweed.

When all your future hopes depend on it, it will then mysteriously wither and die biggrin

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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completed a development recently that had JKW issue - 20m X 8m X 2m mound

only cost £600k to deal with...


marctwo

3,666 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I found this stuff in my garden last year.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

Looked into getting rid of it and it is a total nightmare. Digging it out is too expensive so looked into getting it sprayed. It was going to cost hundreds and would take several years of treatment. I was going to buy the chemicals myself but it was still going to be hundreds. I thought I'd try all the things in my shed after we had successfully managed to kill the Ivy the year before.

I found that root killer made into a solution and sprayed on the leaves worked very well. The plants are still standing but look totally dead and are (as yet) showing no signs of re-growth.


shirt

22,742 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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by 'look dead' do you mean they're brittle and brown? thats last yrs growth amte, trust me they'll be back soon.

parts of my garden has a JKW problem, as does next door. the only cheap, practical solution is a large dose of glysophate over the course of a few years. covering root beds with thick plastic sheeting will suffice if covering the area with gravel, but the plant will still grow around it at the edges.

nasty stuff.

marctwo

3,666 posts

262 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Brittle and brown, yes.

I'll keep an eye on it but it's come over from the neighbours garden so unless I convince them to get their's treated I guess it will keep coming back.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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speaking to the specialist he said just an inch of root was enough for it to establish itself again

shirt

22,742 posts

203 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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i was told even less than that - apparently less than a gram of root matter is enough for it to re-establish itself.

pimpin gimp

3,286 posts

202 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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marctwo said:
Brittle and brown, yes.

I'll keep an eye on it but it's come over from the neighbours garden so unless I convince them to get their's treated I guess it will keep coming back.
This is last years growth in its dormant state... it'll be back!

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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sleep envy said:
completed a development recently that had JKW issue - 20m X 8m X 2m mound

only cost £600k to deal with...
scratchchin Seems like there's a business opportunity here!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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you need to be licensed to deal with it and also provide warranties

I have see it grow through a road (sub base, gas membrane, fill, wearing course, the lot) in under 5 years...

Fish

3,976 posts

284 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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Simpo Two said:
sleep envy said:
completed a development recently that had JKW issue - 20m X 8m X 2m mound

only cost £600k to deal with...
scratchchin Seems like there's a business opportunity here!
If you paid £600k for that they got ripped off with cart away. Quin in Manchester would deal with that for ALOT less maybe nearer the 25-50K mark

sleep envy

62,260 posts

251 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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excavation, loading and removal only came to £29,646

there were other factors that increased the job due to delays, prelims, remobilisation, etc, etc

andrew830

141 posts

209 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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roundup will kill it but it takes several goes,you can cut the plant and pour it down the tubes but its a pita to do.

Simpo Two

85,883 posts

267 months

Wednesday 15th April 2009
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andrew830 said:
roundup will kill it but it takes several goes,you can cut the plant and pour it down the tubes but its a pita to do.
Roundup (glyphosate) usually works via leaf absorbtion - is your way faster?

Hyperion

15,345 posts

202 months

Thursday 16th April 2009
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When I was 7 I dug up a bit of JKW from the park and planted it in my Mum's garden becasue I thought it was a nice looking plant idea
Fast forward 30 years, and my Mum is still having to pull up any new shoots she finds boxedin