Robot mowers

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Caddyshack

10,996 posts

207 months

Wednesday 28th February
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swisstoni said:
Frimley111R said:
Caddyshack said:
Audis5b9 said:
Are these Mammotion's really as good as the price tag?

Really considering a Flymo Easilife 800 at circa £8-900... the mamamotuon luba 1000 is circa £2,250.

The lack of guide wire is very appealing, but is that what the additional £1,400 is buying you?
Every problem I have had and my neighbour has had was guide wire related. I would not buy another guide wire mower.
But that's a lot of money to avoid a wire issue...
I’ve got a lot of grass to cut in separate connected plots probably totalling an acre.
A truly wire-guide free, intelligent mower like the Mammotion would save me a day a week in the summer.
The price tag wouldn’t put me off but I’m going to set on the sidelines for a while longer to see the true performance of these new generation machines.
Finding a wire break in 1 Acre across multiple locations would be a big pain...lots of opportunity for errors there.

On the Flymo I have it set to cut often as you want to mulch where it doesn't collect the clippings. I think you would need something very robust to be mulching a whole acre.


dave_Sw1

247 posts

219 months

Wednesday 28th February
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I couldn't be doing with all the buried wire stuff, for me the price tag is worth it as i'd rather have my weekends for other things than cutting grass, we'll see if it works or not, the Version 1 lubas that were around last year seemed to get reasonable reviews, only found one where a guy had a broken wheel or something. generally if the internet isn't plastered with reviews saying its garbage, then its probably ok

Audis5b9

958 posts

73 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Discovered Mammotion are on kickstarter getting funding a cheaper robot mower.. have pledged, so hopefully will have one mid summer.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/248735162/yuk...

pacenotes

282 posts

145 months

Sunday 3rd March
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Hmmm Tempted, Which one did you go for?

I havn't seen one with a basket before, Any downsides I wonder?

Also are taxes paid for or is it + VAT?

Audis5b9

958 posts

73 months

Monday 4th March
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pacenotes said:
Hmmm Tempted, Which one did you go for?

I havn't seen one with a basket before, Any downsides I wonder?

Also are taxes paid for or is it + VAT?
I went with the 1000m2 as I have circa 700sqm to cut.

You dont have to use the basket, I think I will only have that on for picking up leaves, rather than for the grass cutting.

It says all taxes and shipping included in the price.

mikeiow

5,428 posts

131 months

Monday 4th March
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Audis5b9 said:
pacenotes said:
Hmmm Tempted, Which one did you go for?

I havn't seen one with a basket before, Any downsides I wonder?

Also are taxes paid for or is it + VAT?
I went with the 1000m2 as I have circa 700sqm to cut.

You dont have to use the basket, I think I will only have that on for picking up leaves, rather than for the grass cutting.

It says all taxes and shipping included in the price.
That is an interesting looking beast!
We have only just deployed Rob O’Mow Jr (a £500 Black Friday Einhell special), so hopefully won’t need one for 5-6+ years, but that looks like a very good candidate for a future one….hopefully the tech continues to develop and work well.

Frimley111R

15,713 posts

235 months

Monday 4th March
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dave_Sw1 said:
I couldn't be doing with all the buried wire stuff...
Just a point of clarification here. When you put the wire down you don't need to bury it, the grass grows around it in a couple of weeks and it totally disappears.

dhutch

14,400 posts

198 months

Monday 4th March
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Frimley111R said:
Just a point of clarification here. When you put the wire down you don't need to bury it, the grass grows around it in a couple of weeks and it totally disappears.
I have found this is only true where you have good grass right to the edge.

Certainly find for a lot of lawns, but where our lawn comes up to the bottom of hedges etc the grass thins over winter and the wire becomes exposed again, making it vulnerable to damage, and a pain to rake up fallen leaves, which exasperate the grass thinning! Hence I am working around out 500sqm garden buring the wire, for which I am using a cheap diamond tipped cutting wheel (toothed to clear muck) in an angle grinder!

fiatpower

3,064 posts

172 months

Monday 4th March
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I always bury my wire to prevent any risk of damage and to keep it away from foxes who loved to eat my boundary wire when I didn't bury it. Angled grinder is an interesting idea to cut the trench. I just used the claw side of a glazing hammer to dig mine biggrin

dhutch

14,400 posts

198 months

Monday 4th March
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fiatpower said:
... I used the claw side of a glazing hammer to dig mine...
Ha, I like that too.

I did think of getting a bit of 5-6mm steel plate and making a small, flat, 'spade' to make a groove but the angle grinder works fairly well as long as its not to wet and sticky. Just take it easy and give it time running no-load to cool down again!

I then used the back of a wooden spatula to push the cable into the slot! One stamp of the foot, and its in.

swisstoni

17,146 posts

280 months

Monday 4th March
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Whenever I’ve had to bury anything in a lawn I’ve used a lawn edger. Basically a short sharp blade you step on and then waggle a bit to create a slit.


dhutch

14,400 posts

198 months

Monday 4th March
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swisstoni said:
Whenever I’ve had to bury anything in a lawn I’ve used a lawn edger. Basically a short sharp blade you step on and then waggle a bit to create a slit.
Yeah, I think this would be the tool to buy for many, in effect the same as my proposed 6mm thick edger! However I already had the angle grinder...... .. and its more PH!

justin220

5,352 posts

205 months

Monday 4th March
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I've had my 1200R for 5 years now, this'll be the 6th season. Starting to show its age now with battery charging but on the whole it's been really good.

I only hammered my wire into the ground rather than digging and only had a couple of breaks through that time. A real pain to find though.

Must admit I'm also tempted by that new Luba, two things I miss from traditional lawn mowing is the stripes and also being able to properly scarify it (guide wire puts a stop to that with the robot)

V-spec

759 posts

252 months

Monday 4th March
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I was getting interested in the Luba but I read the user manual online and it says it won’t work if you have a lot of tall trees. The RTK receiver needs to be installed the same distance from trees as the height of the trees to get a clear view of the sky, and I can’t do that in my garden.

There is an alternative of getting the RTK with solar panel / battery and then sticking up at the gable end of the house roof… but that’s starting to sound like more hassle than just laying a boundary wire and going for a decent Honda or Husqvarna.

M1AGM

2,386 posts

33 months

Monday 4th March
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V-spec said:
I was getting interested in the Luba but I read the user manual online and it says it won’t work if you have a lot of tall trees. The RTK receiver needs to be installed the same distance from trees as the height of the trees to get a clear view of the sky, and I can’t do that in my garden.

There is an alternative of getting the RTK with solar panel / battery and then sticking up at the gable end of the house roof… but that’s starting to sound like more hassle than just laying a boundary wire and going for a decent Honda or Husqvarna.
You would have the same issue with any GPS based mower. It is a bit of a headache. I did put my RTK within feet of an old oak tree this past year with no issues on reception etc. It was much closer to the tree than the height of the tree, and it was only a few feet away from a 20 ft container, and no issues. It might be worth getting your local husq dealer guy over to see if they would fit one of their wireless mowers as that should give you a good indication as to it being viable, they'll know pretty much straight away if it is going to be a problem.

Frimley111R

15,713 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Audis5b9 said:
pacenotes said:
Hmmm Tempted, Which one did you go for?

I havn't seen one with a basket before, Any downsides I wonder?

Also are taxes paid for or is it + VAT?
I went with the 1000m2 as I have circa 700sqm to cut.

You dont have to use the basket, I think I will only have that on for picking up leaves, rather than for the grass cutting.

It says all taxes and shipping included in the price.
Looks interesting and as Boris the Blade (Flymo 1200R) looks to have died and this may be a replacement, especially as it may be able to go down the side of the house and do the front lawn too, although I'll need an hour to read the spec/proposition!

justin220

5,352 posts

205 months

Tuesday 5th March
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How well do the intelligent robot mowers cope with things like flower beds that don't have hard boundaries? We've got a curved bed that runs the length of the garden, filled with bark, and currently I've just got my Flymo wire running in the same pattern 20cm from it. Just means I strim the edging now and again.

Audis5b9

958 posts

73 months

Tuesday 5th March
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justin220 said:
How well do the intelligent robot mowers cope with things like flower beds that don't have hard boundaries? We've got a curved bed that runs the length of the garden, filled with bark, and currently I've just got my Flymo wire running in the same pattern 20cm from it. Just means I strim the edging now and again.
When you set up these new style wire less ones, you drive it around the perimeter you want it to mow (like a RC car). So in your case, you can set it not to go into the flower bed. I suspect there will still be a need to strim the edges though

Frimley111R

15,713 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Audis5b9 said:
justin220 said:
How well do the intelligent robot mowers cope with things like flower beds that don't have hard boundaries? We've got a curved bed that runs the length of the garden, filled with bark, and currently I've just got my Flymo wire running in the same pattern 20cm from it. Just means I strim the edging now and again.
When you set up these new style wire less ones, you drive it around the perimeter you want it to mow (like a RC car). So in your case, you can set it not to go into the flower bed. I suspect there will still be a need to strim the edges though
Yes, I just watched a video of the Luba mower and he drove it like an RC car around the edges but, even though it had twin blades it still needed strimming right at the edge.

Cool mower, looked like a little F1 car but it's £2.2k and as pointed out, you could hire a man to mow your lawn for a long time at that cost!

Edited by Frimley111R on Tuesday 5th March 15:02

Audis5b9

958 posts

73 months

Tuesday 5th March
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Frimley111R said:
Yes, I just watched a video of the Luba mower and he drove it like an RC car around the edges but, even though it had twin blades it still needed strimming right at the edge.

Cool mower, looked like a little F1 car but it's £2.2k and as pointed out, you could hire a man to mow your lawn for a long time at that cost!

Edited by Frimley111R on Tuesday 5th March 15:02
Yes it's big money!

My man maths tells me my mammotion yuka will pay for it self in just over one year. (Gardener is £60 visit, 17( best guess!?) mows per year = £1,020. Yuka = £1,200)