Offer on a house already sold?
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Jobbo said:
ETA: @Kermit, the SDLT rules changed a couple of years ago so the thresholds no longer cause a large jump in SDLT. You just pay the higher rate on the portion over the threshold now. So it's the absolute level of SDLT which causes transaction numbers to fall, rather than odd little quirks at £250k and £500k.
Ah, thanks. That's useful to know for when we next move! 
I've just bought a house...It was listed as sold the second it went live.
Well, it wasn't technically for sale as such but it was listed for rent.
We'd waited ages for a house to come on the market. The period, the location and condition was always key to us so we waited...So thinking outside the box we went to the viewing of the rental and fell in love. Next day we told the agent that we're not actually looking to rent but here's a no nonsense offer to buy.
1 day later it was listed as sold and 5 weeks after that it was ours Very happy is an understatement.
Not really relevant to your post i'm just feeling a bit smug.
Well, it wasn't technically for sale as such but it was listed for rent.
We'd waited ages for a house to come on the market. The period, the location and condition was always key to us so we waited...So thinking outside the box we went to the viewing of the rental and fell in love. Next day we told the agent that we're not actually looking to rent but here's a no nonsense offer to buy.
1 day later it was listed as sold and 5 weeks after that it was ours
Very happy is an understatement. Not really relevant to your post i'm just feeling a bit smug.
mcg_ said:
All
As said, I'm not going to knock this thread on the head, not worth the time with some of these replies. Some have been good though.
I may put a letter through the door this weekend, nothing to lose.
If there're any updates ever, I'll let you know.
What on earth did you expect??? Having been on the receiving end of gazumping (twice), I hope you get ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE with this. What you're attempting to do is nothing less than pure evil.As said, I'm not going to knock this thread on the head, not worth the time with some of these replies. Some have been good though.
I may put a letter through the door this weekend, nothing to lose.
If there're any updates ever, I'll let you know.
Take a serious look at your morals.
rustyuk said:
We recently sold our house accepting a full asking price offer after around 7 days of it going for sale.
Around a week after we had accepted the offer we got a letter through the door from someone who stated they had been trying to view but the estate agent had simply ignored them. The letter offered 10k more than whatever we had accepted.
That happened when my in-laws sold their fairly unusual house. Once an offer had been accepted the EA was just telling everyone who enquired that it was sold regardless of their level of interest. The buyers, however, dragged the purchase out for 6 months and it would have been very handy to have had other interested parties to fall back on.Around a week after we had accepted the offer we got a letter through the door from someone who stated they had been trying to view but the estate agent had simply ignored them. The letter offered 10k more than whatever we had accepted.
fat80b said:
Do you think the agent put your offer forward to the seller ?
I’d be tempted to do some digging, find the owner and contact them directly - you’ve got nothing to lose at this point
I’d be tempted to do some digging, find the owner and contact them directly - you’ve got nothing to lose at this point
Land registry search is only a few quid. Go direct.AndStilliRise said:
There are other houses man. Move on.
If it had come to market and op has bid low then sure, gazumping later is not on, but this is different. OP should have the change to make his move.I'm searching for a house and I'm offering well above the asking price and I'm having estate agents saying it's had an offer over the asking price and I say well now they have two, they have a legal obligation to put forward the offer so I'm having loads of fun.
Estate agents really are scum and should be shafted at every opportunity.
Estate agents really are scum and should be shafted at every opportunity.
Dave_ST220 said:
AlmostUseful said:
It's pretty unlikely that deceased estate went through that quickly - from my experience you get either very greedy relatives after as much as they feel entitled to, or even greedier charities after even more.
Very much this. We were bidding on a deceased estate. Each offer would take 3-4 days to be rejected while the family met. We f
ked it off as the greedy bds were taking the piss. In hindsight a good move as we could not have afforded to do what we now have done. Post a link to it on RM OP, you've nothing to lose!They put the house up for about 20% less than it was worth and accepted an immediate cash offer at asking price. We had people ringing us up (referred by neighbours) and offering more but the family just wanted to get shut quick.
mcg_ said:
He came back and said it's a cash buyer which is very attractive to the seller, he will keep me in mind, but doesn't see any problems with the sale.
You haven't viewed it (I guess...). You haven't made an offer. You haven't shown the EA that you're in a position to buy....If you make an formal offer, EA *must* forward it to the seller. You can make the offer to direct to the seller, but they'll just bounce it back to the EA. No point going direct, because the seller will be paying the EA's fees regardless.
mcg_ said:
All
As said, I'm not going to knock this thread on the head, not worth the time with some of these replies. Some have been good though.
I may put a letter through the door this weekend, nothing to lose.
If there're any updates ever, I'll let you know.
Well....what on earth were you expecting?As said, I'm not going to knock this thread on the head, not worth the time with some of these replies. Some have been good though.
I may put a letter through the door this weekend, nothing to lose.
If there're any updates ever, I'll let you know.
It seems like all you wanted was for people to say 'your un-evidenced theory is correct and you are doing the right thing'.
You're having a paddy because you aren't getting your way on a house (despite having used the PH magic answer of hurl money at the problem) and now you are having another as you aren't getting your way on this.
Quite entertaining this read.
Perhaps if estate agents were honest, none of this would have ever started? But then also an ahole for wanting to gazump a sale I suppose, oh well.
Only this weekend I was round a friends very nice and incredibly rare house (Victorian, 9 bedrooms, middle of town). At one point he had an estate agent round his house, telling him in not so many words, that if he gave him 3k the house was his.
he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
good isn't it.
Perhaps if estate agents were honest, none of this would have ever started? But then also an a
hole for wanting to gazump a sale I suppose, oh well.Only this weekend I was round a friends very nice and incredibly rare house (Victorian, 9 bedrooms, middle of town). At one point he had an estate agent round his house, telling him in not so many words, that if he gave him 3k the house was his.
he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
good isn't it.
mcg_ said:
Quite entertaining this read.
Perhaps if estate agents were honest, none of this would have ever started? But then also an ahole for wanting to gazump a sale I suppose, oh well.
Only this weekend I was round a friends very nice and incredibly rare house (Victorian, 9 bedrooms, middle of town). At one point he had an estate agent round his house, telling him in not so many words, that if he gave him 3k the house was his.
he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
good isn't it.
Bargain house at £1500Perhaps if estate agents were honest, none of this would have ever started? But then also an a
hole for wanting to gazump a sale I suppose, oh well.Only this weekend I was round a friends very nice and incredibly rare house (Victorian, 9 bedrooms, middle of town). At one point he had an estate agent round his house, telling him in not so many words, that if he gave him 3k the house was his.
he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
good isn't it.
Think you also like telling a bit of porkies.........
mcg_ said:
Only this weekend I was round a friends very nice and incredibly rare house (Victorian, 9 bedrooms, middle of town). At one point he had an estate agent round his house, telling him in not so many words, that if he gave him 3k the house was his.
he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
Is it just me that can't make any sense whatsoever out of this post?he told him to nah. thought it was lost. got a call, and 1500 later it was his.
alfie2244 said:
Do EA's not have a duty to inform the sellers of all offers made?
I believe if you instruct the estate agent to pass your offer to the vendor they are legal obliged to do so. Obviously if you vaguely witter on about maybe having 15k more without anything firm they don't have to say anything.I understand its not uncommon at the moment for houses to be viewed before they go online, the likes of sequence have lists of 'star buyers' or whatever that they give the heads up to when they do valuations or take the listing details, so it might be one of those.
I also know through direct experience of estates being sold by the children which having been up a few weeks, get several bids one weekend, go to best and final, and end in a handshake within 24hours. Sadly they shook the wrong hand if you ask me, both offered the asking and they went with the other party, but such is life. Everything happens for a reason, I hope.
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