My garage - tips, ideas and recommendations please

My garage - tips, ideas and recommendations please

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matts4

1,911 posts

192 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Great job, looks a load better/more practical.


JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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52classic said:
Nice thread and a job well done Robert.

Just a thought that you're missing some useful space in the garage loft. I hadn't spotted the pitched roof until the most recent photographs.

I scrounged some 6x2's which I bolted to the existing 4x then used some loft decking to make a mezzanine. An extra light on the upper level means I don't loose too much stuff and painting the underneath white gives some useful reflected light to the bench area.

My thinking is that with some decent storage bins I can switch the workshop between configurations for woodworking, mechanical work, body repairing, valeting etc. However, in practice I have never managed to be quite so tidy!
Thanks smile

Yup, there is a lot of space up there which I intend to use. Thing is, I want it accessible and don't want to get the ladder our everytime I need something...

I like your idea about painting the underside though, and switching configurations *goes to hatch plan*

matts4 said:
Great job, looks a load better/more practical.
Thanks! It is definately more practical having tools to hand rather than hunting through a huge box!

mdw

337 posts

275 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I recently purchased garage floor tiles for £9 a sq mtr from this ebay listing 110558916830. They were used in the A1 gp series so are 2nd hand. They have holes in them so I laid them over weed control fabric to stop the dust coming up through. Might not be right for every one but at £9 a meter they are much better than a cold dusty floor.

freecar

4,249 posts

188 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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JFReturns said:
52classic said:
Nice thread and a job well done Robert.

Just a thought that you're missing some useful space in the garage loft. I hadn't spotted the pitched roof until the most recent photographs.

I scrounged some 6x2's which I bolted to the existing 4x then used some loft decking to make a mezzanine. An extra light on the upper level means I don't loose too much stuff and painting the underneath white gives some useful reflected light to the bench area.

My thinking is that with some decent storage bins I can switch the workshop between configurations for woodworking, mechanical work, body repairing, valeting etc. However, in practice I have never managed to be quite so tidy!
Thanks smile

Yup, there is a lot of space up there which I intend to use. Thing is, I want it accessible and don't want to get the ladder our everytime I need something...

I like your idea about painting the underside though, and switching configurations *goes to hatch plan*

matts4 said:
Great job, looks a load better/more practical.
Thanks! It is definately more practical having tools to hand rather than hunting through a huge box!
How about putting a ladder on a couple of pivots and then hanging it over the entrance to the mezz? That way you can swing it down to access upstairs then swing back up to gain space back. Being securely mounted on the ceiling will make it safer to use solo too!

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Breeze blocks are a breeze (excuse the pun). I've had to drill into reinforced concrete (a la Marley style garages) with an SDS drill to put up racking and shelves, and melted/killed numerous pricey drill bits in the process.

It's a matter of using the space wisely. I've put up racking with bins, shelves and even a bike rack. I've also constructed a narrow workbench at the back.

My best advice however is to pad everything that could be clipped. I've glued underlay to the walls to take the brunt of knocking the door on the wall, scraping the mirror and bumping the bench. I've also put markers on the walls at mirror height so I know when I am in.

Matt..

3,627 posts

190 months

Thursday 29th July 2010
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Look on this forum:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.ph...


That should give you a lot of inspiration! (and jealousy at the Americans with loads of space!).

JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Friday 30th July 2010
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Matt.. said:
Look on this forum:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.ph...


That should give you a lot of inspiration! (and jealousy at the Americans with loads of space!).
Yeah, its a good forum - I think someone mentioned it a couple of pages back.

Theres a few Brits on there!

Skyedriver

17,990 posts

283 months

Friday 30th July 2010
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But how do you keep it that way????????
Did my last one (and the one before and the one before that), but after a few years of grinding, cutting, sanding, woodworking, welding, engine building, gearbox removal, spraying etc etc they all look like the inside of an old scrapyard with sawdust, spiders and undescribable gunge.
Then you try to build an engine and look for a clean space......
Chap round the corner seems to have partitioned his into two halves, (tandem garage), front half has the project car back half has the racking and presumably the clean area.
Trouble is the scooby and new wifes car sit outside all day.
Now once I get my new place livable, I need to get a car transporter, a mini, wifes car, a project car, a ton of spares tools stuff kept just in case, 3 sets of wheels, compressor, engine crane, trailer, 4 bikes, jacks, woodworking gear, tumble drier, dog food, gardening gear, into the tandem double garage....that leaves my car outside on the drive and the spare volvo scrapper, and another collection of stuff kept in case left in scotland....

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 30th July 2010
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Paint the end wall too, you'll get lots of light bouncing back biggrin

JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st July 2010
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Skyedriver said:
But how do you keep it that way????????
Well, I have taken measures to help me. For example, sealing brick work with paint/PVA, organising tools so they all have a place and most importantly... banning SWMBO from putting anything in there. Will it work...? Time will tell.

BliarOut said:
Paint the end wall too, you'll get lots of light bouncing back biggrin
Nah, I like the original brick work smile

Skyedriver

17,990 posts

283 months

Saturday 31st July 2010
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JFReturns said:
Skyedriver said:
But how do you keep it that way????????
Well, I have taken measures to help me. For example, sealing brick work with paint/PVA, organising tools so they all have a place and most importantly... banning SWMBO from putting anything in there. Will it work...? Time will tell.

BliarOut said:
Paint the end wall too, you'll get lots of light bouncing back biggrin
Nah, I like the original brick work smile
Its not the wifes stuff, its the paint dust, grinding dust, welding muck, degreasing, oil drips, etc from restoration jobs.
I built a Caterham once, what a revelation to use all new parts instead of cleaning up 20 years of gunge and rust from every part.

JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Saturday 31st July 2010
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Skyedriver said:
JFReturns said:
Skyedriver said:
But how do you keep it that way????????
Well, I have taken measures to help me. For example, sealing brick work with paint/PVA, organising tools so they all have a place and most importantly... banning SWMBO from putting anything in there. Will it work...? Time will tell.

BliarOut said:
Paint the end wall too, you'll get lots of light bouncing back biggrin
Nah, I like the original brick work smile
Its not the wifes stuff, its the paint dust, grinding dust, welding muck, degreasing, oil drips, etc from restoration jobs.
Have you tried cleaning up after yourself?

Skyedriver

17,990 posts

283 months

Sunday 1st August 2010
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Yes but the dust from paint spraying and grinding out rust just seems to get everywhere including into the pores of the concrete blocks, shelves etc
When you've got a 4 year long project, that cannot be moved the crud that builds up underneath and around, even with regular sweeping is horifying. Plus when you've most of the rest of the car lying around in every corner waiting to be cleaned, repaired or slung, ......
Must find a better project, as I said building a Caterham with all new parts was a great revelation compared to trying to resurect an old mini or BMW

raf_gti

4,080 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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JFReturns said:
Update time, floor now painted using hammerite floor paint. Few more prints up and I'm starting to fill the garage with my stuff. I wanted a chest of drawers from the spare room, painted black but SWMBO wouldn't let me.. women.. pfft

Anyway, pics:









Plans now are to figure out clever ways of storing the rest of my tools and bits. I'm thinking along the lines of pulleys, runners and... well, cool stuff.

So far, I'm happy with it. I know it's tiny, and yeah, I admit a tinge of envy over the other garages posted in this thread, but hey, its mine.

Comments and suggestions welcome.
Very nice biggrin

What did you do in the way of prepping the floor for the paint?

I've a two year old garage and even although I've swept it numerous times and ever powerwashed it the dust keeps on coming back?

I fancy going red on my floor smile

JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.

raf_gti

4,080 posts

207 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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JFReturns said:
Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.
How many coats of the paint did you need? I've read various different ways of using floor paint.

JFReturns

Original Poster:

3,697 posts

172 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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raf_gti said:
JFReturns said:
Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.
How many coats of the paint did you need? I've read various different ways of using floor paint.
Two good coats, the first diluted with a little water (around one part water ten paint).

Edited by JFReturns on Saturday 7th August 20:28

Targarama

14,637 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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raf_gti said:
JFReturns said:
Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.
How many coats of the paint did you need? I've read various different ways of using floor paint.
You can buy a specific garage floor sealent paint which is transparent, use this first. Then you can put any floor paint you like on top in one coat instead of 20 (as it soaks into the floor otherwise).

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

210 months

Saturday 7th August 2010
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Targarama said:
raf_gti said:
JFReturns said:
Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.
How many coats of the paint did you need? I've read various different ways of using floor paint.
You can buy a specific garage floor sealent paint which is transparent, use this first. Then you can put any floor paint you like on top in one coat instead of 20 (as it soaks into the floor otherwise).
You can also mix PVA glue with water to create a sealant for porous surfaces.

JFReturns

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3,697 posts

172 months

Sunday 8th August 2010
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odyssey2200 said:
Targarama said:
raf_gti said:
JFReturns said:
Thanks raf smile

I love the idea of a red floor, but thought it would look naff with my current car.

To prep the floor I thoroughly sweeped with a stiff bristled broom, wire brushed, filled then sanded any crumbly bits then finally vacuumed the whole lot. The finish is tough and perfect apart from one small area that is flaking as I didn't spot the crumbly concrete.
How many coats of the paint did you need? I've read various different ways of using floor paint.
You can buy a specific garage floor sealent paint which is transparent, use this first. Then you can put any floor paint you like on top in one coat instead of 20 (as it soaks into the floor otherwise).
You can also mix PVA glue with water to create a sealant for porous surfaces.
Yeah, this is a good idea if you have porous floors. I coated my brick wall with it and it has sealed nicely - no more crumbly mortar dusting up the garage.